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Old 01-17-2011, 06:09 AM
 
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I got my proof the same place you got yours.
But I thought the Bible was ALL the proof you needed and if it's NOT in the Bible then it might not have occured and if it is in thE Bible it is 100% accurate and true. that's the impression I get from you.

What you mentioned is speculation (and lots of it) and perhaps you could be right, but when others speculate based on the evidence available, please don't act clueless.

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Old 01-17-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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But I thought the Bible was ALL the proof you needed and if it's NOT in the Bible then it might not have occured and if it is in thE Bible it is 100% accurate and true. that's the impression I get from you.
The impression you get from me is inaccurate.
The Bible does not record the apostle Paul taking a crap and wiping himself with papyrus. Yet I think it is pretty safe to say he performed his normaly daily functions. The Bible need not record every last thing that ever happened.

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What you mentioned is speculation (and lots of it) and perhaps you could be right, but when others speculate based on the evidence available, please don't act clueless.

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What you mention is speculation as well and not backed up by scientific facts. So we are in the same boat (no pun intended).
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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The impression you get from me is innacurate.
The Bible does not record the apostle Paul taking a crap and wiping himself with papyrus. Yet I think it is pretty safe to say he performed his normaly daily functions. The Bible need not record every last thing that ever happened.
Keep THAT in mind, ok? thanks.



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What you mention is speculation as well and not backed up by scientific facts. So we are in the same boat (no pun intended).
So you are admitting that your latest speculation was just that, rather than, something based on scientific fact? Ok, let's go over this again.

One of the world's greatest explosions EVER took place in the neigborhood time frame of the alleged biblical Exodus. The blast took place a mere 800 miles or so from Egypt. In addition, the Mediterranean region, notably the eastern side is an volatile earthquake zone and this sandwiched to the east by the Rift valley and its seismic zone also. We know from relatively recent volacanic explosions (Tambora in 1815 and Krakatoa in the late 1800s) that such massive blasts can darken the skies clear on the other side of the world AND drop temperatures and lead to all soughts of other disasters. We also know that earthquakes often awaken volcanos and that they also can rip apart the earth and release deadly gasses on land and under water. These are scientific observations that can be taken as FACTS.

Now, imagine such a cataclysmic disaster occuring not too far away from your home in say, 2000 BCE. You don't see it happen, but you see the dramatic effects on your surroundings. Don't you think this would be a great incubator for fantastic legends with mythical elements ESPECIALLY in an ancient world populated with all kinds of invisible gods above, on and below the earth?
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:10 AM
 
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Keep THAT in mind, ok? thanks.





So you are admitting that your latest speculation was just that, rather than, something based on scientific fact? Ok, let's go over this again.

One of the world's greatest explosions EVER took place in the neigborhood time frame of the alleged biblical Exodus. The blast took place a mere 800 miles or so from Egypt. In addition, the Mediterranean region, notably the eastern side is an volatile earthquake zone and this sandwiched to the east by the Rift valley and its seismic zone also. We know from relatively recent volacanic explosions (Tambora in 1815 and Krakatoa in the late 1800s) that such massive blasts can darken the skies clear on the other side of the world AND drop temperatures and lead to all soughts of other disasters. We also know that earthquakes often awaken volcanos and that they also can rip apart the earth and release deadly gasses on land and under water. These are scientific observations that can be taken as FACTS.

Now, imagine such a cataclysmic disaster occuring not too far away from your home in say, 2000 BCE. You don't see it happen, but you see the dramatic effects on your surroundings. Don't you think this would be a great incubator for fantastic legends with mythical elements ESPECIALLY in an ancient world populated with all kinds of invisible gods above, on and below the earth?
Sheer speculation on your part. You first of all have to scientifically prove that that explosion occurred at the exact same time Moses and party were getting ready to exit Egypt.

Secondly, you have to scientifically prove the winds carried the explosive debris over Egypt from 800 miles away.

Thirdly, you have to scientifically prove that each of the plagues are directly related to that explosion.

What is interesting is that when the vulcano erupted just lately spewing ash over parts of Europe no one saw lice on everyone or frogs everywhere or blood in the rivers or firstborn of animals and humans killed etc. etc. etc. Care to try your fanciful wishful thinking again? I wasn't born yesterday.
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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Sheer speculation on your part. You first of all have to scientifically prove that that explosion occurred at the exact same time Moses and party were getting ready to exit Egypt.

Secondly, you have to scientifically prove the winds carried the explosive debris over Egypt from 800 miles away.

Thirdly, you have to scientifically prove that each of the plagues are directly related to that explosion.

What is interesting is that when the vulcano erupted just lately spewing ash over parts of Europe no one saw lice on everyone or frogs everywhere or blood in the rivers or firstborn of animals and humans killed etc. etc. etc. Care to try your fanciful wishful thinking again? I wasn't born yesterday.


*sigh*

And your scientific proof that sticks turned into snakes, that a sea parted and that every firstborn child of Egypt died is....???
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:56 AM
 
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HUH A persons genes don't change based on their behavior.

Right, I read fiction for entertainment, but for the real world I base decisions on reality.
Sin is not just a behavior it is a disease which permiates even the genes of everything.

No one knows all of reality just the small portion our minds can comprehend and even then only a small portion.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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Yes, I am well aware that a good deal of the taboo of cousins was based in ignorance, but if every person on the planet started from the very very shallow gene pool of Noah and family, even if the sons had wives from different gene pools, it would leave a very very shallow gene pool, which is completely counter to the possibilities of all the different races that exist.

The diversity of DNA that exists proves this fable, just that a fable.

And ALL the species that exist would have a very very common DNA sequence, as even though there were half a dozen humans, there were only 2 of every other species.

In the light of DNA evidence, the fable holds no water.
Do you realize that our knowledge of DNA is very limited and rather new and constantly changing?
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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*sigh*

And your scientific proof that sticks turned into snakes, that a sea parted and that every firstborn child of Egypt died is....???
And your scientific proof that sticks cannot turn into snakes or that a sea was not parted and that every firstborn child of Egypt did not die is . . . ???

By the way, not every firstborn male of animal and human did not die in Egypt. Only the Egyptian's firstborn human and animals died.

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Old 01-17-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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Sin is not just a behavior it is a disease which permiates even the genes of everything.
Stop the presses, I'm pretty sure the CDC is not aware of this and perhaps you need to publish your 'theory' in JAMA.

ow ow ow my head hurts
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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Do you realize that our knowledge of DNA is very limited and rather new and constantly changing?
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Here is info about DNA:

What is DNA? - Genetics Home Reference

DNA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It is neither is limited or new.
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