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Old 01-13-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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i thought id start this tread for ya because miss blue has been deleting my messages on the other thread,,off topic apparently!!!!!but here was my reply to your message.


look pal,your a human being and no animal,but of course you know that already,the difference between us and the animals is that we can use our inteligence and inquire about God,thus we can progress spiritualy,thats the real difference,everything else is just sense pleasure,eatin,sleepin,mating etc.,,,,,,,,,,,

sometiomes probly even most of the time it is for the benefit of the individual to be put into an animals body,when the intricities and hardships of life become too unbarable they are put into simpler forms of life,you know yourself -some people cant handle the human form,then their are punishments,,its said that people who are attached to much to the material pleasures will also be put into a body befitting their desires,if all one wants to do with their human existence is eat,sleep,mate, defend which are all animal instincts then instead of spending a life as a human and having to put up with the human emotions,God will put them into a body hat they can do this as much as they like without any negative spiritual effects.

when we first entered the material platform of existence we came directly from the spiritual world and were pure in spirit,infact we didnt have gross material bodys but rather bodys made out of pure intelligence,a subtle body,born on the highest of the heavenly planets within the material universe,then due to our contact with material nature and our desires to enjoy such nature,we started to gradually fall down and accumulate karma.even the fact that we have human form now suggests that we've probly been through every species of life including single celled organisms just to get here,but once we get here to the human stage you'd have to be a right arsehole to loose your position,unfortunatly their are too many of these in the world.

the human form of life is considered to be the most precious,on the heavenly planetsd their is too much pleasure,on the hellish planets their is too much pain,but on the middle planetary system's the balance is just right for one to cultivate spiritual progress,these bodies are considered the gateways to eternal realm.even a life on the highest planet(brahmaloka)which a day is billions of earth years is considered to be not as good as the human form for entry to the spiritual realm,that is if you know how to gt there,it is a rare thing,how many times have we been here and missed our chance.

NO you dont have a soul,,,,YOU ARE A SOUL,we are not bodies that posses souls but rather souls that posses bodies,the soul is eternal and is not made of the same energy that matter is,it is a spiritual energy,an energy that comes from God,the same energy that God is -you are,in your original state that is,which is bliss and knowledge.God is the whole while we are parts,just like the ocean and the drop of water from the ocean,both are the same in quality but not quantity,God is unlimited He is whole of everything that exists while we are the parts,He is Love and so are we!!!!!

we are all eternal beings,spiritual entitys,the body is just a temporary manifestation in which we can live out our desires,but the real goal of life is to break free from the bondage of material existence and karma and return to HOME back to Godhead....if you want to know how this is done then i suggest reading the Bhagavad Gita,,the science of self realisation is a process,the self(soul)is where god exists.

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Old 01-13-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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thanks again for your post it was liberating.
believe it or not second class citzenship is heavily taught in certain religious populations; this is one of the infinite number of reasons i decided to forsake assembly with them any futher. it's a stupid way to think and it is self defeatist. now i'am certain of it.

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