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Old 01-19-2011, 12:49 AM
 
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And you believe that the God who created the universe . . . that stopping the rotation of the earth is an impossibility?
First it is nice to see you admit that one piece of the Torah is just flat out wrong, the sun did not stand still.

Secondly, to answer your questions: Yeah.

 
Old 01-19-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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You have to actually prove He didn't. I don't have to prove He did because I just take it by faith.
You need to read up on 'Burden Of Proof'.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 01:07 AM
 
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Answers in Genesis again.


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Global Flood - The Geophysics of God
A scientist embraces plate tectonics--and Noah's flood
Ah! This is a bit more interesting. For your link:

"Not only did he come up with a tool used by geophysicists around the world but his "numerical code" actually proves the Bible is correct. Or at least in Baumgardner's view it does."

Yeah! says it all huh?In other words, he just about the only one. BTW. Baumgardener is a geophysicist NOT a geologist. Such people should stick to what they are qualified in.

The planet is only 10,000 years old!! Sheesh!


All your links are to fundie, evangelical Christian sites. Must do better with REAL science.

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Old 01-19-2011, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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This is just mind blowing (sorry nothing to do with the flood): from your link;

"The summit of Everest is composed of deep-marine limestone, with fossils of ocean-bottom dwelling crinoids [Gansser, 1964]."

To think that plate tectonic would push the bottom of the sea floor to the heights of an 8 meter mountain is just staggering.
Staggering, but true, ain't nature amazing?
 
Old 01-19-2011, 01:26 AM
 
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Yes, and Good gracious I sent you to a site that is so chocked full of evidence regarding the utter possibility of the "Flood" as to make any counter argument risible

Startling evidence for Noah’s Flood

Here's more:
Geologic Evidences for the Genesis Flood - Answers in Genesis

High & Dry Sea Creatures - Answers in Genesis
The World

Sand Transported Cross Country - Answers in Genesis

No Slow and Gradual Erosion - Answers in Genesis

Rock Layers Folded, Not Fractured - Answers in Genesis

Global Flood - The Geophysics of God
A scientist embraces plate tectonics--and Noah's flood
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By: Chandler Burr
16 June 1997
U.S. News & World Report 55-58.
Answers in Genesis....(lying for Jesus)
 
Old 01-19-2011, 01:31 AM
 
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And you believe that the God who created the universe . . . that stopping the rotation of the earth is an impossibility?
Impossible.......Earth is rotating at a speed of about 1100 miles per hour. If our planet suddenly stopped rotating, the atmosphere would still be in motion at that speed. The atmosphere would be moving so fast it would literally sweep the land masses clear of anything not anchored to bedrock, this would mean rocks, soil, trees, buildings, people and animals. All would be swept up into the atmosphere.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 04:51 AM
 
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Impossible.......Earth is rotating at a speed of about 1100 miles per hour. If our planet suddenly stopped rotating, the atmosphere would still be in motion at that speed. The atmosphere would be moving so fast it would literally sweep the land masses clear of anything not anchored to bedrock, this would mean rocks, soil, trees, buildings, people and animals. All would be swept up into the atmosphere.

Sure, and the scientists said when the automobile first came out that if you went faster than 30 miles per hour that the skin would rip right off your body. They also used to believe in a geocentric cosmology, the earth was flat etc. etc. etc.

By the way, do you have undeniable scientific proof of your untennable, unmprovable assertions that those things would occur? You are saying that the God that created the universe can't bend physics to His purpose? He isn't a fallible human you know.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 04:56 AM
 
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Answers in Genesis again.


Ah! This is a bit more interesting. For your link:

"Not only did he come up with a tool used by geophysicists around the world but his "numerical code" actually proves the Bible is correct. Or at least in Baumgardner's view it does."

Yeah! says it all huh?In other words, he just about the only one. BTW. Baumgardener is a geophysicist NOT a geologist. Such people should stick to what they are qualified in.

The planet is only 10,000 years old!! Sheesh!


All your links are to fundie, evangelical Christian sites. Must do better with REAL science.
I don't agree with everything Baumgardner believes such as the earth being 10,000 years old. But at least I went to a scientist I don't agree with everything he said. W
What I thought was interesting is his subduction model for the explanation of how the continents could have sunk to below sea level thus flooding all the continents or continent (Pangea) as the case may be.

Otherwise, if you can't scientifically disprove each of his thoughts and all the thoughts of the other links then just keep your puerile statements to yourself.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 05:11 AM
 
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First it is nice to see you admit that one piece of the Torah is just flat out wrong, the sun did not stand still.

Secondly, to answer your questions: Yeah.
It appeared to those who witnessed the event that the sun did stand still and the moon stood still:

Jos 10:12-14 Then speaks Joshua to Yahweh in the day of Yahweh's
giving up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he said, before the
eyes of Israel, `Sun--in Gibeon stand still; and moon--in the valley of
Ajalon;. (13) and the sun stands still, and the moon has stood--till the
nation takes vengeance [on] its enemies; is it not written on the Book of
the Upright, `and the sun stands in the midst of the heavens, and has not
hasted to go in--as a perfect day?. (14) And there has not been like
that day before it or after it, for Yahweh's hearkening to the voice of a
man; for Yahweh is fighting for Israel.

Surely you don't expect every weatherman on t.v. to say rather than "the sun rise was at 6:00 A.M. that they would have to say:

At 6:00 A.M. as the earth rotated in an easterly direction at approximate 1000 miles per hour it gave the impression that the sun was rising where actually it was just the earth rotating causing what would appear to be a sun rising.
 
Old 01-19-2011, 06:35 AM
 
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The Geology of Israel within the Biblical Creation-Flood Framework of History: 2. The Flood Rocks
by Dr. Andrew Snelling
December 15, 2010
The Geology of Israel within the Biblical Creation-Flood Framework of History: 2. The Flood Rocks - Answers in Genesis

This article lays out the facts of the flood of Noah's day with real science unlike what the atheists say.
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