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Old 01-20-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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But's that's the interpretation held for two centuries.
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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"Why do you look for the living among the dead?"
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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But's that's the interpretation held for two centuries.
Two Millennium, not centuries
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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Mark wrote the original passage. Matthew and Luke copied. Matthew (or some subsequent writer) added verses 17 through 19 which are not found in Mark's original nor in Luke's.

Curiously, these are contradicted in John 1 and Acts of the Apostles.

John 1:40- 42
"One of the two who heard John speak and followed him was Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother. He first found his brother Simon and said to him, ‘We have found the Messiah’ (which is translated Anointed. He brought Simon to Jesus, who looked at him and said, ‘You are Simon son of John. You are to be called Cephas’ (which is translated Peter)." (NRSV)

Thus Simon was first told that Jesus was the messiah by Andrew, not God, and Simon had his name changed to Peter before he became an apostle.

Throughout Acts of the Apostles, an account of Jesus' original followers, Jesus' followers never founded a church but remained a very observant "sect" within mainline Judaism.

Both of these facts strongly suggest an interpolation (addition) to Mark's original Gospel.
I would have to agree that there is a very strong chance that there was some interpolation going on.
especialy if you think about binding and loosening would suggest the hierarchy was able to overwrite God.
Example would be the hierarchy sending people to hell for disobeying them by eating meat on Friday.
Does anybody in there right mind thinks God would send someone to hell for eating meat on Friday, I doubt God would but according to the binding loosening the hierarchy of the Church would trump God and God would have no choice but to obey the hierarchy of the Church and send millions of people straight to hell.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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But's that's the interpretation held for two centuries.
Well the Church thought slavery was ok for almost 2,000 years, does that make it right?

As Pope John XXIII said 'it is not that the Gospel has changed, but that we have begun to understand it better"

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Old 01-23-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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You know the early Church thinking also had gems like a female fetus was an ill formed male fetus, and that the soul entered the male fetus weeks before it would enter a female fetus.
Not to mention that the hierarchy of the Church still treats women as second class citizens even today, but does that make it right?
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Old 01-23-2011, 10:56 PM
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So when are you leaving the Church, Ted? Oh wait, you have already left.
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Old 01-23-2011, 11:22 PM
 
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So when are you leaving the Church, Ted? Oh wait, you have already left.
Ted is a far better representative of Christ's church than that evil hierarchy in the Vatican ever could be. There is no Spirit of Christ or Love there.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:35 AM
 
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Ted is a far better representative of Christ's church than that evil hierarchy in the Vatican ever could be. There is no Spirit of Christ or Love there.
Because the millions they help a year is out of hatred right? Yeah.
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Old 01-24-2011, 05:11 AM
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Ted is a far better representative of Christ's church than that evil hierarchy in the Vatican ever could be. There is no Spirit of Christ or Love there.
You are easily confused.
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