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most people here would know that i beleive in re-incarnation and karma,that the soul is eternal and immortal,and that in time every living entity will return home,back to the spiritual world where existence is pure transcendental bliss and knowledge.Moderator cut: see sticky,,,,,,,
If this is our only life ,then why wouldnt God give everyone the same chance??????.
i'll try explain it a bit more to what i mean----there are those who suffer in this life ,some immensily more than others,and would like to know from your perspective what is the reason for this?
also,when a person dies,do they enter the spiritual realm straight away wether they were good or bad people in their life,Moderator cut: see sticky
If anyone wants me to explain what i beleive on the matter,i will be happy to do so.
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Reason: sorry but the subject t of hell, ur, and et are at reas for a little while see the sticky at top of forum page
most people here would know that i beleive in re-incarnation and karma,that the soul is eternal and immortal,and that in time every living entity will return home,back to the spiritual world where existence is pure transcendental bliss and knowledge.
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If this is our only life ,then why wouldnt God give everyone the same chance??????.
idk.life isn't fair.that's just the way it is,imo.
that said,I think God gave each and every one of us the particular set of dna that we have so that we would have the experiences that we do,inc. how we die.
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i'll try explain it a bit more to what i mean----there are those who suffer in this life ,some immensily more than others,and would like to know from your perspective what is the reason for this?
no clue,I guess there's more to it than we can know right now.
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if anyone wants me to explain what i beleive on the matter,i will be happy to do so.
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most people here would know that i beleive in re-incarnation and karma,that the soul is eternal and immortal,and that in time every living entity will return home,back to the spiritual world where existence is pure transcendental bliss and knowledge.
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If this is our only life ,then why wouldnt God give everyone the same chance??????.
i'll try explain it a bit more to what i mean----there are those who suffer in this life ,some immensily more than others,and would like to know from your perspective what is the reason for this?
also,when a person dies,do they enter the spiritual realm straight away wether they were good or bad people in their life,or is their some form of punishment for those who are evil.?
if anyone wants me to explain what i beleive on the matter,i will be happy to do so.
The reason for the murder, theft, rape, etc... is because man has sinned. These things must exist to show us what is the life and nature that is opposite the one God is eventually going to give everyone. In other words, how can you know how wonderful light is if you never experienced darkness?
As for when a person dies, they do not enter the spiritual realm immediately. When the spirit leaves the body they are dead. To live is to join the spirit to the body at which point they will be a soul. I believe that only Christ has risen at this time. The rest await a resurrection from the dead which will come.
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most people here would know that i beleive in re-incarnation and karma,that the soul is eternal and immortal,and that in time every living entity will return home,back to the spiritual world where existence is pure transcendental bliss and knowledge.
so to me the whole universal reconciliation thingy is closer to my beleifs than ET or annhialation,but heres my question,,,,,,,
If this is our only life ,then why wouldnt God give everyone the same chance??????.
There are two more ages/eons to come. God is choosing specific one to be in His corporation (sort of) during those two ages. He doesn't need everyone who has ever lived to be in His program during those two ages to come. The rest of mankind enter salvation at the end of those ages.
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i'll try explain it a bit more to what i mean----there are those who suffer in this life ,some immensily more than others,and would like to know from your perspective what is the reason for this?
It all has to do with the knowledge of good and evil. "God is working all together for good" (Romans 8) so all the evil will eventuate in good.
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also,when a person dies,do they enter the spiritual realm straight away wether they were good or bad people in their life,or is their some form of punishment for those who are evil.?.
When a person dies they enter into unconscious death, the complete absense of life. They must await a resurrection from the dead.
God is going to pay each one in accord with their acts. Jesus did not die to shield mankind from needful, loving correction. He died to save them from sin and death.
There are two more ages/eons to come. God is choosing specific one to be in His corporation (sort of) during those two ages. He doesn't need everyone who has ever lived to be in His program during those two ages to come. The rest of mankind enter salvation at the end of those ages.
It all has to do with the knowledge of good and evil. "God is working all together for good" (Romans 8) so all the evil will eventuate in good.
When a person dies they enter into unconscious death, the complete absense of life. They must await a resurrection from the dead.
God is going to pay each one in accord with their acts. Jesus did not die to shield mankind from needful, loving correction. He died to save them from sin and death.
So are you saying anybody that claims they have been in communication with the deceased are full of it?
also,when a person dies,do they enter the spiritual realm straight away wether they were good or bad people in their life,or is their some form of punishment for those who are evil.?
Yes, it happens right away, although the good and bad obviously have differnet destinations. When Stehpen, the brother of Jesus was being stoned to death, he said "Lord, receive the spirit of your servant". Also, Paul said several times that it would be better to die and be with the Lord. Jesus, on the cross, told the repentant criminal on the other cross, that today they would in in paradise together. TODAY. So, there is no doubt that believers will be with the Lord as soon as we die. Likewise, when unbelievers die, they will be in Hades the same day, as evidenced with the Rich Man and Lazarus story.
Yes, it happens right away, although the good and bad obviously have differnet destinations. When Stehpen, the brother of Jesus was being stoned to death, he said "Lord, receive the spirit of your servant". Also, Paul said several times that it would be better to die and be with the Lord. Jesus, on the cross, told the repentant criminal on the other cross, that today they would in in paradise together. TODAY. So, there is no doubt that believers will be with the Lord as soon as we die. Likewise, when unbelievers die, they will be in Hades the same day, as evidenced with the Rich Man and Lazarus story.
Yes, it happens right away, although the good and bad obviously have differnet destinations. When Stehpen, the brother of Jesus was being stoned to death, he said "Lord, receive the spirit of your servant". Also, Paul said several times that it would be better to die and be with the Lord. Jesus, on the cross, told the repentant criminal on the other cross, that today they would in in paradise together. TODAY. So, there is no doubt that believers will be with the Lord as soon as we die. Likewise, when unbelievers die, they will be in Hades the same day, as evidenced with the Rich Man and Lazarus story.
Neither Jesus not the thief on the other cross were in paradise the day they died.
Jesus said "I say to you today, with Me you will be in paradise." Notice where the comma is. Paradise is in the future coming kingdom Jesus is going to set up on the earth.
As for Stephen, the bible says when any human dies the spirit returns to God Who gave it. So you can't say they automatically go to heaven. The Bible says God is everywhere so when our spirit returns to God it goes right outside our body and right then and there is with God.
As for Paul, he did not say sudden death sudden glory. Paul always looked forward to meeting the Lord via resurrection of the dead.
Neither Jesus not the thief on the other cross were in paradise the day they died.
Jesus said "I say to you today, with Me you will be in paradise." Notice where the comma is. Paradise is in the future coming kingdom Jesus is going to set up on the earth.
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