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Old 01-20-2011, 05:09 AM
 
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That was the very first thought that crossed my mind as well.

Revelation 12 (New Living Translation)

7 Then there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels. 8 And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels were forced out of heaven. 9 This great dragon—the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

10 Then I heard a loud voice shouting across the heavens,
“It has come at last—
salvation and power
and the Kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.[a]
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters[b]
has been thrown down to earth—
the one who accuses them
before our God day and night.
11 And they have defeated him by the blood of the Lamb
and by their testimony.
And they did not love their lives so much
that they were afraid to die.
12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens!
And you who live in the heavens, rejoice!
But terror will come on the earth and the sea,
for the devil has come down to you in great anger,
knowing that he has little time.”
13 When the dragon realized that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 But she was given two wings like those of a great eagle so she could fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness. There she would be cared for and protected from the dragon[c] for a time, times, and half a time. 15 Then the dragon tried to drown the woman with a flood of water that flowed from his mouth. 16 But the earth helped her by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that gushed out from the mouth of the dragon. 17 And the dragon was angry at the woman and declared war against the rest of her children—all who keep God’s commandments and maintain their testimony for Jesus.

*But then the day of the Lord won't be so pretty either.
this sure does'nt sound like any fun. why would a god have you to waste your whole physical experience dealing with dread?
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Old 01-20-2011, 05:26 AM
 
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i've known countless numbers of people who have ruined their marriages behind of this type of mind-set...it is sad. this type of thinking involves exilations in various forms...you've got to find fault in others to find right in yourself. it can be a very lonely self-righteous existence.

proverbs 22:7 can help to remind us that majority of us have some individual works we need to accomplish. if you are a borrower you have at least 2 masters. what if you die in debt (debt sin)? do you get a special pardon? what about the lender?

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Old 01-20-2011, 06:38 AM
 
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i've known countless numbers of people who have ruined their marriages behind of this type of mind-set...it is sad. this type of thinking involves exilations in various forms...you've got to find fault in others to find right in yourself. it can be a very lonely self-righteous existence.

proverbs 22:7 can help to remind us that majority of us have some individual works we need to accomplish. if you are a borrower you have at least 2 masters. what if you die in debt (debt sin)? do you get a special pardon? what about the lender?
what if you get raptured? will God give a special pass on all outstanding loans?? think of all the unpaid debt that will be left behind if it does happen.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:50 AM
 
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I would say that the people in Australia and Brazil and a dozen other countries in the world have been shaken from the heavens opening up upon them.
Remember, it is the Spirit, water and blood that gives Witness to the True Christ on Earth.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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New International Version
Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

New American Standard Bible
men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.


King James Version

Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

American Standard Version

men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world: for the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

Bible in Basic English
Men's strength will go from them in fear and in waiting for the things which are coming on the earth; for the powers of the heavens will be moved.

English Revised Version
men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world: for the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

(Luke 21:26)

Still the same day? Nothings different?
It continues: At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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what if you get raptured? will God give a special pass on all outstanding loans?? think of all the unpaid debt that will be left behind if it does happen.
true. better not die before the mortgage gets paid off or it might be burn baby burn.
if you are in the position of a borrower the bible refers to this position as a slave's position. you can be benevolent while in the slave's position but most often you're fearful and your words and actions would propably display such.
lending on other hand could possibly lead one down the path to wrath. knundrums!
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Default The point of the thread....

Is to get you to look around! Nothing's change? Nothing at all? Still the same old day to you? All's well? No need for a change of heart, for Jesus?
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Is to get you to look around! Nothing's change? Nothing at all? Still the same old day to you? All's well? No need for a change of heart, for Jesus?
What is he going to do, Betsey? Hasn't he had all of human history to clean up the mess?
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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what's wrong with our hearts?
we are not bad people simply because we don't walk around chanting mantras every miniscule of the time we are alive (by the way the people i have witnessed exhibiting this behavior usually did it with gloom faces- that's a no no).
we all want a better education systems, optimal health for-all, increases in civility.....we are not bad people...some of us just do not want too and will not live a concentration-camp type life-style to please others. for what?
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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Alot has changed. There were many of Satan's angels in the heavenly realms but now they're finding themselves in a body of flesh only. This is one of the big changes. They were in the heavens and all they wanted to do was accuse our brethren and now they find themselves here stranded on earth. Naturally they are going to be doing the same things here except with more anger. This calls for patient perservering from the saints. There may also be a great deception (don't believe it if they tell you or show you proof of aliens). Satan's main mission right now is to disprove our God and wage war against God's children. Remember, he is a deciever and even Christ said that if possible the very elect would be decieved (Matthew 24). I can assure you the only way to decieve the elect is if it looks and sounds exactly like God. A very great deception is now taking place.

Christ didn't take the keys away from us and neither the Holy Spirit. Pray. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. That is key. It would be a shame to have the keys, but not use/work them.

Make sure your lamps are full!
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