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Old 01-21-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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I know that Christ rebuked the Pharisees for thier accusations against him working on the Sabbath Day but he never denied the Sabbath Day or said that anything was going to change about it. In fact when asked how to recieve eternal life he often spoke of obeying the Ten Direct Commandments of God. In response to them the only thing he said was things like, wouldn't you rescue your ox, or, haven't you read - it's ok for the priests on duty to work on the Sabbath Day. Perhaps the most evident scripture from Christ himself of the modern day Seventh Day Sabbath is:

Matthew 24
20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

Why did the Sabbath Day change? Constantine changed it, and He accually ordered the deaths of those who refused to change to the first day of the week instead of the seventh. Now, who are we supposed to follow - Christ or Constantine? Just the fact that Constantine ordered the Seventh Day Sabbath keepers deaths tells me he didn't even know God.

Be Blessed,
Yahuchannon
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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I didn't know they had airplanes in Christ's day?

"Pray that your flight be not in winter"

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Old 01-21-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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I know that Christ rebuked the Pharisees for thier accusations against him working on the Sabbath Day but he never denied the Sabbath Day or said that anything was going to change about it. In fact when asked how to recieve eternal life he often spoke of obeying the Ten Direct Commandments of God. In response to them the only thing he said was things like, wouldn't you rescue your ox, or, haven't you read - it's ok for the priests on duty to work on the Sabbath Day. Perhaps the most evident scripture from Christ himself of the modern day Seventh Day Sabbath is:

Matthew 24
20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

Why did the Sabbath Day change? Constantine changed it, and He accually ordered the deaths of those who refused to change to the first day of the week instead of the seventh. Now, who are we supposed to follow - Christ or Constantine? Just the fact that Constantine ordered the Seventh Day Sabbath keepers deaths tells me he didn't even know God.

Be Blessed,
Yahuchannon
O! - Ducky!!...you are indeed a very Lucky! Ducky! to have this knowledge of the truth resting in your heart!!! Amen! Amen! and Amen!

A Sabbath Keeper...and loving it!
Verna.


..oh.,..and by the way...HAPPY SABBATH!...
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Verna, if one feels they must keep the sabbath then they are mixing law with grace which Paul strictly forbids in his Galatian epistle.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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Verna, if one feels they must keep the sabbath then they are mixing law with grace which Paul strictly forbids in his Galatian epistle.
.... I actually agree.

If the sabbath is still required (Sat) then Jesus didn't fullfill everything.
Romans 10:4
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Galatians 2:16
know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 3:11
Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.”

Galatians 3:25
Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.




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Old 01-21-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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twin.spin, isn't it nice when two can agree?
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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Verna, if one feels they must keep the sabbath then they are mixing law with grace which Paul strictly forbids in his Galatian epistle.
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.... I actually agree.

If the sabbath is still required (Sat) then Jesus didn't fullfill everything.
Romans 10:4
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Galatians 2:16
know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 3:11
Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.”

Galatians 3:25
Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.




[quote=Eusebius;17518307]twin.spin, isn't it nice when two can agree?[/quote]


...ummmmm...twin...?......does this say anything to your heart?
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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Jesus is our sabbath, our rest.
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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.... I actually agree.

If the sabbath is still required (Sat) then Jesus didn't fullfill everything.
Romans 10:4
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Galatians 2:16
know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 3:11
Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.”

Galatians 3:25
Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.




you are liar and you speak death.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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twin.spin, isn't it nice when two can agree?[/quote]


...ummmmm...twin...?......does this say anything to your heart?
What is says to me is that on the surface what Eusebius stated was factually true in the context of this OP. It doesn't mean that we don't set aside time to worship God. We as believers are encouraged to not stop meeting together Hebrews 10:25.

That is what love and mercy allows us to do. We keep God a priority in our life but no longer as a set day of the week.

If there would have been a comment made or the OP was that denied the latter half of Romans 10:4, I would have said something otherwise, which may have raised eyebrows to some others.
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