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Old 01-25-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It goes along the lines of "God helps them that help themselves."

If the preacher had any sense at all, he would have gotten in one of the boats, instead of personally expecting a response from God.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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It goes along the lines of "God helps them that help themselves."

If the preacher had any sense at all, he would have gotten in one of the boats, instead of personally expecting a response from God.
ok, I just didn't see why you attached my post to it, but it doesn't really matter.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Because you seem to think that we need other people to do things for us, instead of doing them for ourselves?
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:14 AM
 
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Who believe Titus 3:10 if a ministry mock John 3:5 ?

Who believe Galations 1:8-9 if a ministry mock Romans 6:1 ?

Who believe 2 Cor. 6 if a ministry mock 1 Timothy 2:9-14 ?

Who believe Amos 3:3 if a ministry mock 1 Peter 3:3 ?

Who believe John 17 if a ministry mock Hebrews 4 ?

Who believe Psalms 133:1 if a ministry mock James 5:20 ?

Who believe 1 Thess. 5:12 to see if a ministry mock John 8:31 ?

Who believe Matthew 5:18-20 if a ministry mock 2 Peter 1:20-21 ?

Who believe Romans 10:2-3 if a ministry mock ALL of 1 Cor. 14 ?

Who believe Matthew 4:4 if a ministry mock 1 Timothy 6 ?

Who believe Matthew 15:14 if a ministry mock John 5:39 ?

Who believe 2 Cor. 4:3 if a ministry mock 1 John 2:27 ?

Who believe John 8:44 if a ministry mock John 14:26 ?

Who believe John 8:32 if a ministry mock James 1:5 ?

Who believe Romans 3:1-4 if a ministry mock 1 Peter 4:1-4 ?

Who believe Amos 3:3 when people say it's all about your 1 on 1
with God-----John 17 ???

Who believe John 14:26 when people say we're never perfect to
live out John 8:31 ?

Who believe John 17:17 when people say Christianity is 10% philosophy in the bible-----John 8:32 ??

Who believe Matthew 5:6 when people say it's in vain to look for
John 8:31 people that have God's opinion of all the bible
only-------2 Peter 1:20-21 and Colossians 2:8 ??

Who believe in calling a lie what it is with anything in the bible
today------John 8:44 and Romans 3:1-4 ??

Who believe in calling people what they are with all the bible only and not
some undirected fleshly spirit-----John 8:31 ??

Who believe in God's meeting place when people say any Jesus confessing place is the church to attend and support -----Galations 1:8-9 and
John 17 ??

Who believe every grace preaching church is not the body of Christ
today------Romans 6:1 and Romans 3:1-4 ??

Who believe every sweetheart is not a Christian---John 3:5 and
John 8:31 ??

Who believe every gifted person is not our brethren in Christ
today----Romans 11:29 and Amos 3:3 ??

Who believe every tithing tycoon is not a ministry to put
endorsement on for support -----1 Timothy 6 and Galations 1:8-9 ??

Who believe every shouting preacher is not where the body of
Christ is today------1 Thess. 5:12 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every ministry of God can prove so with a John 8:31
testimony with anything in the bible----Psalm 107:2 and Hebrews 4 ??

Who believe every delivered alcoholic is not a Christian
today----1 Peter 3:3 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every delivered smoker is not a Christian
today-----Romans 6:1 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every proud parent is not a Christian
today----Romans 7:2-3 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every proud spouse is not a Christian
today----1 Timothy 2:9-14 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every proud employee is not a Christian
today----Hebrews 4 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every proud person with a pay raise is
not a Christian today-----Luke 3:14 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe everybody with bible ignorance excuses is
not a Christian today---2 Cor. 4:3 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe everybody talking about the Holy Spirit talking to
them is not a Christian---Romans 10:17 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every well liked person is not a Christian
today---Matthew 10:22 and Luke 6:26 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe everybody with positive talk is not a Christian
today---Mark 16:16 and John 8:31 ?/

Who believe everybody offended is not a Christian
today---James 5:20 and John 8:31 ??

Who believe every student is not a Christian
today----John 14:26 and John 8:31 ??









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I am noticing more and more folks on this forum who claim to follow Jesus but do not go to church. How do you encourage yourself or find community? Of course, those who do go to church use the "do not forsake the assembling of yourselves" scripture. How do you skirt around this passage?
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I'm not much for reading the Bible, so I don't understand any of your references.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Because you seem to think that we need other people to do things for us, instead of doing them for ourselves?
Oh, ok. Yes, I believe in praying for others and helping others. I believe in personal responsibility too, but if someone is hurting then why not pray, help, comfort and instruct them?
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:48 PM
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Location: Walt Disney World
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I don't attend a building called a church. I found that they teach the same thing over and over but when I read on my own the Holy Spirit revealed alot more than what they were teaching. I have several friends that do not go to church but have a deep hunger to know the Lord more deeply. So we finally formed a home church and we have on guy lead us during those meetings. He is an apostle which he goes from home church to home church. We also have guest speaker who love and know the God and we give a love offering to whomever speaks (100% goes to that person unlike the church which takes their cut into the speaker's pocket)

We have learn things the church have never taught (i.e trevailing, the difference between working from the spirit and the working from the soul (which most churches work from the soul by pumping you up with songs and shouting), the coorelation between the fruit of the spirit and the gifts of the spirit, speaking in tongues, dream/vision interpretations ( we are not always accurate but we are not off base either...we are in training because the orginal church would not allow the general members to do this except from their "chosen " leaders). We analyze scripture and discuss what revelation God has given us. Sometimes we talk about what the leader is about to teach on before he get to the full teaching..lol now that's the Holy Spirit at work folks!

We also have pray for those in need; some come only once and later on they report great results from the prays. But what I have noticed most of all is that TOGETHER we produce better results than the church because we KNOW we can't do it without each other and we know it is the Lord at work in us; each of us hold a major part of God's puzzle in order to bring the kingdom of heaven to earth. We understand more than ever why Yeshua says "become one". Because as we become in the body, more power is given to the entire group and you can feel the presence of the Holy Spirit so much so that you don't want to leave.
We don't have a meal after the teaching; we had spiritual food but we will do communion as the Spirit leads ( I personally do it several times a week)
Sounds a lot like my chuch of 4000 members.

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Also with the economy getting worse, I wonder who is going to pay the overhead for these churches when the bills come. You are going to see the attitude of the church change as they start trying to make you tithe more and they beg more because bills are not being paid. In home churches that is not an issue unless one person trys to feed the people after the meeting; we don't
God will provide. He doesn't go through recessions.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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Sounds a lot like my chuch of 4000 members.

God will provide. He doesn't go through recessions.
We are only 9 people other days about 12

We will see because people will take care of their families first, friends second all others lastly. Then we will know which are made of hay stubble , brass or gold
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:00 PM
Status: "Build the damn wall!" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Walt Disney World
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We are only 9 people other days about 12
Maybe I misunderstood, but you seemed to be insinuating your church was succesful because it was small & didn't have "overhead". My church has a 4.3 million dollar budget & yet God is moving in profound ways.

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We will see because people will take care of their families first, friends second all others lastly. Then we will know which are made of hay stubble , brass or gold
We will see what? That God is not able to sustain His church?
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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Maybe I misunderstood, but you seemed to be insinuating your church was succesful because it was small & didn't have "overhead". My church has a 4.3 million dollar budget & yet God is moving in profound ways.

Both are just a successful, yet size and $$ doesn't matter to God.

We will see what? That God is not able to sustain His church?
God will sustain those who are his true followers... all other will get their pink slips
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