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Old 01-24-2011, 02:22 AM
 
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Hi everyone!

Remember Adam? You know, the one who sinned in the garden of Eden? According to what Christendom tells us, Adam's disobedience has caused all mankind to be made sinful.

But what about Christ? Christ is called "the Last Adam."
So what kind of influence is Christ having on the world today?
Is Christ's influence as "wide spread" as that of Adam?

If Adam caused 100 percent of people to be sinners, what amount is Christ causing to be saints? 10 percent? 50 percent? 100 percent? 110 percent?

Who is more "influential": Adam, or Christ?

Blessings to all,
brian
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:36 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Well I think you know what my answer is to that Brian!! Christ is the winner by a landslide, or he will be in the end!! Praise God!! It just don't get no better than that!
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:10 AM
 
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Hi everyone!

Remember Adam? You know, the one who sinned in the garden of Eden? According to what Christendom tells us, Adam's disobedience has caused all mankind to be made sinful.

But what about Christ? Christ is called "the Last Adam."
So what kind of influence is Christ having on the world today?
Is Christ's influence as "wide spread" as that of Adam?

If Adam caused 100 percent of people to be sinners, what amount is Christ causing to be saints? 10 percent? 50 percent? 100 percent? 110 percent?

Who is more "influential": Adam, or Christ?

Blessings to all,
brian
Wherever sin abounds, grace does much more abound. AS in adam all die, so in Christ will all be made alive.

Great news!
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Old 01-24-2011, 03:27 AM
 
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I think Father wanted to create an eternal paradise. Unfortunately Adam wrecked the paradise.
Father started thinking how to fix it.
During Noach's time He figured out plan B.
The great flood.
That fixed it.
Well.... for a little while that is.
So He started thinking again and about 2000 years ago He sent plan C - Jesus.
That didn't work out very well either. Most mocked Jesus. Just a few believed Him.
That few became even less when mankind started "improving" Jesus's teachings.
God being allknowing and allmighty quickly saw plan C failed also. Moderator cut: deleteFryhard ET mode off.
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It's all part of His one and only perfect plan of the ages.
Christian Universal Salvation in a nutshell

Adam 0 - Good Shepherd 100

Last edited by Miss Blue; 01-24-2011 at 06:33 AM.. Reason: topic of hell is temporarily not allowed..See the sticky
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:46 AM
 
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I think Father wanted to create an eternal paradise. Unfortunately Adam wrecked the paradise.
Father started thinking how to fix it.
During Noach's time He figured out plan B.
The great flood.
That fixed it.
Well.... for a little while that is.
So He started thinking again and about 2000 years ago He sent plan C - Jesus.
That didn't work out very well either. Most mocked Jesus. Just a few believed Him.
That few became even less when mankind started "improving" Jesus's teachings.
God being allknowing and allmighty quickly saw plan C failed also. Moderator cut: delete
It's all part of His one and only perfect plan of the ages.
Christian Universal Salvation in a nutshell

Adam 0 - Good Shepherd 100
Hey Whitewings --- welcome to the forum!!

Last edited by Miss Blue; 01-24-2011 at 06:34 AM..
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:48 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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I like WhiteWings style, we need more of that!!
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Old 01-24-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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It isn't a contest. What makes the OP think it is?
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Old 01-24-2011, 07:57 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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It isn't a contest. What makes the OP think it is?
That was my same thoughts when I read the OP..... !! sad indeed !!

Luke 6:45
" The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.

Jeremiah 9:8
"Their tongue is a deadly arrow; it speaks deceit;with his mouth one speaks peace to his neighbor, but inwardly he sets an ambush for him.....

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Old 01-24-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Well I think you know what my answer is to that Brian!! Christ is the winner by a landslide, or he will be in the end!! Praise God!! It just don't get no better than that!
Yes, all we need to do is choose a team, -the winning team, or the losing team. Choose wisely my friends. Do not throw away the free gift of salvation.

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what amount is Christ causing to be saints?
What amount? 100% of those who accept the gift will be saved.
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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It isn't a contest. What makes the OP think it is?
It is nothing but an attempt to say that Jesus is a loser if he does not save those who reject Him. Well, He doesn't, because He promises eternal life to those who believe in Him, and eternal death to those who reject Him.

When people say things like that they judge God, and it is a sad sight to see.
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