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Old 01-30-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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There is quite a diversified group of people here who have backgrounds of varied teachings from the scriptures.

I will post my belief on this but first, I would like a few people to explain this as succinctly as they can.

What is a/the unforgivable sin? (an example if you would like, scriptures also appreciated)


Thanks in advance for your input.
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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The sin of unbelief. Mark 3:29
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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There is quite a diversified group of people here who have backgrounds of varied teachings from the scriptures.

I will post my belief on this but first, I would like a few people to explain this as succinctly as they can.

What is a/the unforgivable sin? (an example if you would like, scriptures also appreciated)


Thanks in advance for your input.

Reading the Bible context referring to Jesus' conversation about this (the unforgivable sin):
It was/is attributing the miraculous works of the Holy Spirit as being a manifestion/work of the devil. When Jesus worked miracles, some of the people refused to acknowledge that it was of God, but instead claimed it was the work of Satan. People still do that today, when miracles happen.
I have an aunt who is Christian, but she thinks all, and I do mean ALL, miracles, instant healings, etc, are of the devil....that God is not working miracles today, nor is He healing anybody...it's all of the devil.


Matthew 12
22Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.
23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come
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That word "wherefore" is a connecting word that couples the just-mentioned comments of Jesus with the meaning of it all in His statement to immediately follow. (right after the "wherefore") Jesus has already explained what the unforgivable sin is.

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Old 01-30-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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The sin of unbelief. Mark 3:29
Yes, dying in unbelief is the only unforgiveable sin today. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit cannot be repeated today.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:15 PM
 
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The sin of unbelief. Mark 3:29
We know it can't be that because we all disbelieved before we believed. Furthermore, it says that the unbelief would not be forgiven in this age or the next. Therefore, if we previously had unbelief in this age then it could never be forgiven. But what does those verses say that you referenced (Mark 3:29), they say this:

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

So the unforgiven sin would be to defame the Holy Spirit.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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Missing the mark is not unforgivable, especially when you do not comprehend.
Although we are called to preach the Good News; it’s God alone who has the power to touch a hardened and skeptical heart.

(Expressed in few words)


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Old 01-30-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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Please keep the responses coming. Some of them touch on what I will post, but others are contributing to the discussion as well.

I will post my thoughts, and examples, which I believe support them a little later this evening.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:33 PM
 
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All sin can be forgiven if people repent from sin and turn away from it , but some sin can bring a early death to believers of Jesus , like pride and unforgivness can close a believers life , even that eternaly this believer is still saved , his temporal life can be cut short ..... for believers who can lose their salvation will have, to have sin that blapheme Holy spirit, or mark pf the beast or the number pf the beast or his name of the beast or the complete loss of the fruits of the spirit , or iniquity where Jesus judged a believers who went beyond the acceptance of Heavens tolerances ...... for the people who do not try to get saved unbelief and pride can be unforgivable all the time ....
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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We know it can't be that because we all disbelieved before we believed. Furthermore, it says that the unbelief would not be forgiven in this age or the next. Therefore, if we previously had unbelief in this age then it could never be forgiven. But what does those verses say that you referenced (Mark 3:29), they say this:

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

So the unforgiven sin would be to defame the Holy Spirit.
The work of the Holy Spirit is faith.
The work that God requires is to believe.

Thus to "defame" is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, which is to reject the good news.

Romans 3:22
This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God .. can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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The work of the Holy Spirit is faith.
The work that God requires is to believe.

Thus to "defame" is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, which is to reject the good news.

Romans 3:22
This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God .. can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
That doesn't fit he definition Twinspin. The meaning of blaspheme means "to hold cheap". IF someone is rejecting the Holy Spirit then that is NOT defamation (to hold cheap). Blasphemy is to present the Holy Spirit as having less value or power than what it actually is. For example, there is a lot of people that say God cannot save everyone. That would be a sign of blasphemy. To blasphemy the Holy Spirit is to reduce its power or meaning.
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