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Old 02-01-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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So, then, a child rapist, since controlled by God in the manner of a computer, shows us Gods character as he directly controlled a child rapist to violate them.

God is truth and the one who made all the plans. If you think he's evil, then go ahead and think it. Some people think he's good with all this evil that's present in the world.

Does a starving African child deserve to die according to the world's good and evil standard?

Maybe God wanted starving African children to confuse the people on earth. This would make the rich people uncomfortable and the religious people unworthy.

God's character cannot be described by the flesh of man. God is everything, including good and evil and there's nothing you can do about it.

 
Old 02-01-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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God is truth and the one who made all the plans. If you think he's evil, then go ahead and think it.
Oh, no, I do not think God is evil, however your beliefs can be, or my beliefs can be, the only thing here is for you that presents an idea such as yours to be forthcoming in what you think "is" true.

Given the analogy you gave, do you then believe that the character of God is given to man when a child gets raped?

By your analogy, God directly controls the rapist to rape a child, do you believe that is true or not?

If you believe God is good if he does that then MAN UP and say that he is.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Oh, no, I do not think God is evil, however your beliefs can be, or my beliefs can be, the only thing here is for you that presents an idea such as yours to be forthcoming in what you think "is" true.

Given the analogy you gave, do you then believe that the character of God is given to man when a child gets raped?

By your analogy, God directly controls the rapist to rape a child, do you believe that is true or not?

If you believe God is good if he does that then MAN UP and say that he is.
Deuteronomy, chapter 32
39: "`See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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Deuteronomy, chapter 32
39: "`See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

So you do believe that God can make you go do something evil in the future, and you have no true assurance that he won't, finally you agree. Finally somone owns up to their beliefs, took a while to get there, but you came out stinking like a ... I mean shining like a.... um, nevermind.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 09:58 AM
 
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So you do believe that God can make you go do something evil in the future, and you have no true assurance that he won't, finally you agree. Finally somone owns up to their beliefs, took a while to get there, but you came out stinking like a ... I mean shining like a.... um, nevermind.

He had me speak the word to end this age and this will kill 7 billion people, including my three sons and three granddaughters.

The problem you have is that you think from the flesh instead of the spirit. I see spiritual things so I know that once this age is over and all flesh is dead, that a new age will appear with a better earth for us to live on. We will get new immortal bodies and live forever.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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He had me speak the word to end this age and this will kill 7 billion people, including my three sons and three granddaughters.

The problem you have is that you think from the flesh instead of the spirit. I see spiritual things so I know that once this age is over and all flesh is dead, that a new age will appear with a better earth for us to live on. We will get new immortal bodies and live forever.

Actually it only reveals that you remove yourself from Gods hand.

Claiming a theology is true that you do not insert yourself into.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Actually it only reveals that you remove yourself from Gods hand.

Claiming a theology is true that you do not insert yourself into.

The more you talk, the more you give yourself a way. Silence is an enemies greatest asset.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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It's not free will that allows you to be disobedient. It's God's plans that a disobedient sinner is living and if you weren't chosen to be an obedient saint who will never sin again, you will remain a sinner until your planned death.

God planned everything, not just a few things.
Hmmm. I couldn't disagree more.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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Hmmm. I couldn't disagree more.

Most sinners can't agree with God's plans. That would mean the gods they worship aren't real.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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The more you talk, the more you give yourself a way. Silence is an enemies greatest asset.
That is why you refrain from outright admitting that you do not apply yourself to your own belief of God controlling evil people.
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