Christianity and Islam: two of the same kind! (Gospel, hell, church)
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i was watching this video of Hagee preaching about Islam as not a peaceful, tolerant religion.. But the more I watched, the more his religion is the exact same intolerance, just with Jesus instead of Mohammad!
There is NO difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam. Both have enemies to destroy or cause to submit; both consider the other an "infidel." both teach to have nothing to do with the other.
Please watch and discuss with me how strikingly similar the two religions really are.
i was watching this video of Hagee preaching about Islam as not a peaceful, tolerant religion.. But the more I watched, the more his religion is the exact same intolerance, just with Jesus instead of Mohammad!
There is NO difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam. Both have enemies to destroy or cause to submit; both consider the other an "infidel." both teach to have nothing to do with the other.
Please watch and discuss with me how strikingly similar the two religions really are.
Yea, and how many Christians fly planes into buildings in Riyadh. Your premise is completely false. I don't know this guy Hagee, but spare us the insult. And don't bring up what happened in the 12 century. We are discussing modern day Islam and modern day Christiainity. Every place of mass death and conflict in the world, minus N. Korea, is an Islamic country right now. The United States, Israel, Europe, and Russia is under attack from muslims. Those are the facts.
I'm willing to bet the victims of Christian terrorism live in fear just as much as the victims of Islamic terrorism live in fear.
Fear is (in case you hadn't noticed) a very universal reactionary emotion - often it's left unchecked and thereafter becomes a catalyst for unreasonable thoughts, action, etc. Unfortunate, but true. Even more unfortunate is the marketing and packaging of fear for sale & distribution to those who have been consumed by their often irrational, unchecked fear.
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John Hagee does not represent the Children of God as a peacemaker , and people who like his ministries must have a heart that is rooted in condemnation and martyrship......... Saying that Christianity and Islam are two of a same take the name of God in vain and belittles Jesus and his work , Jesus does not produce extremist martyrs, his work come from within ..... The work of activist fighter for Christ is a work FOR Jesus not a work BY Jesus, and only the work by Jesus will be rewarded at the Great Judgment so they are not the same kind
True Christianity always turns the other cheek.
Islam's way is death to the infidels.
In the United States the Islamists are very peaceful (at least most of them). There was an Islamic leader trying to inculcate hate in the Detroit area. When the FBI went to arrest him for crimes he shot at them and killed one of their dogs so they returned fire and he is no longer alive. Here is the link to that: Detroit: Radical Muslim leader killed in raid - USATODAY.com
There is absolutely nothing similar with Islam and true Christianity.
Christianity does not have enemies it seeks to destroy or force to submit. That happened back during the days of the corrupted Papacy (see: Inquisition and the excesses committed during the Reformation), but that was an aberration and not from the Gospel.
Instead, we seek to persuade others of the truth of the Gospel as an act of love, not conquest.
Yes, there are Christian extremist's who commit foul murders in the name of God and others who would forcibly impose Christian "values" on everyone else if they got the chance, but they do not reflect the teachings of Jesus. Sadly, so long as the church is made up of weak human beings, that kind of stuff will continue to happen as none of us are immune from pride, avarice, greed etc. Too often, our sins of the flesh have been hidden behind the banner of God, often with the approval of some sect or denomination.
It's much the same with Muslim's. Most I've met have been gracious, loving people and it's as unfair to judge the whole religion by the excesses of it's fringe as it is to judge all of Christianity by someone like Fred Phelps.
I will say, though, that in the Qu'ran, Muhammad comes across as an angry man and his teachings seem violent to me, unlike the Jesus of the New Testament who condemned nobody except the religious leaders of the day and compelled no one to follow him. Neither did He teach His disciples to do so.
As for Hagee? I've listened to his sermons and, while he comes across as somewhat abrupt, he's basically sound in his understandings of the Bible. I even attended his church in San Antonio once and have traveled to Washington, DC twice with his group, "Christian's United for Israel," but have since broken my connection with them. It's not because I don't support Israel any more (I do), or because I now think Hagee isn't a good preacher, but because he and the organization seem to have fallen under the sway of the Evangelical Republican's and I want nothing to do with that crowd.
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I don't believe Islam is an enemy of God's, the end time preachers have got into the minds of christians and thus convinced them that Islam is an enemy. Jesus warned us that our enemies would be those of our own household,(I also do not believe he meant our Mam and Dad), but something far closer to home.
Folk go on about the money making racket of the posperity gospel, but it would not suprise me if the end time ministry tops it(in terms of scammed dollars). At least the prosperity teaching works when your heart is in the right place.
I don't believe Islam is an enemy of God's, the end time preachers have got into the minds of christians and thus convinced them that Islam is an enemy. Jesus warned us that our enemies would be those of our own household,(I also do not believe he meant our Mam and Dad), but something far closer to home.
I'd have to disagree with you on that.
Islam pointedly refutes the diety of Christ, His death on the cross, His resurrection and specifically denies the tri-une nature of God.
It doesn't seem logical that a God, with even a hint of fairness in His nature, would give completely contradictory revelations to two different groups, then hold both eternally accountable for not believing.
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Folk go on about the money making racket of the posperity gospel, but it would not suprise me if the end time ministry tops it(in terms of scammed dollars). At least the prosperity teaching works when your heart is in the right place.
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I'd have to disagree with you on that.
Islam pointedly refutes the diety of Christ, His death on the cross, His resurrection and specifically denies the tri-une nature of God.
It doesn't seem logical that a God, with even a hint of fairness in His nature, would give completely contradictory revelations to two different groups, then hold both eternally accountable for not believing.
That depends upon how you define prosperity.
I think you may have misunderstood what i said.
What you say may be true, but it does not make Islam an enemy of christianity,christianity has made it an enemy. From the crusades to today's end time preachers Islam has been promoted as the enemy of God.
We are being lied to when we are told Islam will prevail if christianity is not the faith of the nation, Jesus said he will build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
God conquered is enemy through his death,burial,resurrection and ascension,this is why we are called more than than conquerors because the enemy is defeated. Just a thought maybe Islam would be a little more receptive to the good news if it wasn't looked upon by christianity as the enemy.
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