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God , Jesus, or the Holy Spirit do not speak to us personally today. We have their words recorded in the Bible, which you refuse to accept as the final authority.
Now i understand why you are saying what you are saying.So Christ is dormant in us ?
Katie what i have underlined is another false accusation from you, can you quote me saying this please ?
I know it riles a christian when they hear the bible is not God, this does not give you or anyone else the right to falsely accuse me.
I think we're arguing over an ant hill, and not a mountain.
See if this is in the bible - it happened yesterday:
I was washing my truck in the driveway, and a thought came to me; I own stock in the company that makes the brand I drive, and as I was polishing it up I considered how a nice looking truck could boost the stock price if customers were drawn to buying the brand because of the look.
Then You-Know-Who showed me a simple, yet profound element that applies that very precept to the Kingdom. He said, "I'm polishing you up as well, so that others will be drawn to Me."
In the bible? Yes.
Verbatim? No
That's what we're trying to say: God speaks to people - He's not mute, nor is He dead. What He speaks is agreeing with prior fundamental applications we see in scripture, but He can apply it to our lives in varying - seemingly endless - ways. We're individuals who respond to things differently (and He knows that very well), but the central truth that He draws us to does not change.
That's what we're trying to say: God speaks to people - He's not mute, nor is He dead. What He speaks is agreeing with prior fundamental applications we see in scripture, but He can apply it to our lives in varying - seemingly endless - ways. We're individuals who respond to things differently (and He knows that very well), but the central truth that He draws us to does not change.
Capeesh?
*clapping*
You hit the nail square on the head, little elmer.
I think we're arguing over an ant hill, and not a mountain.
See if this is in the bible - it happened yesterday:
I was washing my truck in the driveway, and a thought came to me; I own stock in the company that makes the brand I drive, and as I was polishing it up I considered how a nice looking truck could boost the stock price if customers were drawn to buying the brand because of the look.
Then You-Know-Who showed me a simple, yet profound element that applies that very precept to the Kingdom. He said, "I'm polishing you up as well, so that others will be drawn to Me."
In the bible? Yes.
Verbatim? No
That's what we're trying to say: God speaks to people - He's not mute, nor is He dead. What He speaks is agreeing with prior fundamental applications we see in scripture, but He can apply it to our lives in varying - seemingly endless - ways. We're individuals who respond to things differently (and He knows that very well), but the central truth that He draws us to does not change.
Capeesh?
Really God tells you that ...I thought it was written that
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." Hebrews 13:8
Now if Jesus is the same forever, how can God tell you one thing because everytime I wash and polish my car(s), I get "told" something very different.
If I had to guess it's more of:
"What He speaks is agreeing with prior fundamental applications we see in scripture, but WE (not He) can apply it to our lives in varying - seemingly endless - ways."
Really God tells you that ...I thought it was written that
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." Hebrews 13:8
Now if Jesus is the same forever, how can God tell you one thing because everytime I wash and polish my car(s), I get "told" something very different.
If I had to guess it's more of:
"What He speaks is agreeing with prior fundamental applications we see in scripture, but WE (not He) can apply it to our lives in varying - seemingly endless - ways."
What part of my post led you to believe He changes? He reminded me He's changing me, and encouragement is one of the precious things the Holy Spirit gives me.
Not confined to scripture, but supporting scripture if you will. I reiterate - scripture serves Him in instructing us, but we're esteeming the written over the living, imo.
What part of my post led you to believe He changes? He reminded me He's changing me, and encouragement is one of the precious things the Holy Spirit gives me.
Not confined to scripture, but supporting scripture if you will. I reiterate - scripture serves Him in instructing us, but we're esteeming the written over the living, imo.
What led me to that is that notion that when something pops into mind from scripture, to conclude that must be God speaking is not so. Because if were truly God speaking, he wouldn't tell each of us something completely different when we did the same activity.
As I said previously, a postion like that does nothing to prevent an over active imaganiation and or indegestion.
The greater danger is that if people are not firmly grounded in the written word, it makes only but a breeding ground of victims that the infamous celebrities around the world like the wacko from Waco look for.
So again I would encourage everyybody to heed to God's advice:
What led me to that is that notion that when something pops into mind from scripture, to conclude that must be God speaking is not so. Because if were truly God speaking, he wouldn't tell each of us something completely different when we did the same activity.
Disagree to a point, because what might be the language of one (style, slang, point of reference) may be different than another. He speaks to the prince one way, the pauper another so that each can understand. Note the customs in scripture, for example.
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As I said previously, a postion like that does nothing to prevent an over active imaganiation and or indegestion.
The greater danger is that if people are not firmly grounded in the written word, it makes only but a breeding ground of victims that the infamous celebrities around the world like the wacko from Waco look for.
If people are firmly grounded in Him, our thoughts are used by God to speak to us. The mind shapes our view not only of our world, but God Himself. Scripture gives earthly descriptions of the spiritual, and most are limited to the earthly - that's why we must be led by the Spirit out of the carnal realm. The natural cannot conceive the spiritual.
Why do some oppose statements like "many paths lead to God" ?... because that is:
" go[ing] beyond what is written.” 1 Corinthians 4:6
Many paths do lead to God, your path is different from mine and we are both going to the same place.
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Why do so many oppose the teachings of hell...because they're:
" go[ing] beyond what is written.” 1 Corinthians 4:6
Most oppose eternal damnation which is only one definition of the word hell, many embrace the judgments of God which then what he has determined is the truth.
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Why do so many oppose statements that say in effect "salvation is offered beyond death"...? because that is:
" go[ing] beyond what is written.” 1 Corinthians 4:6
God promises to save all mankind, that is written.
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Want to know who is going to be saved....then:
“Do not go beyond what is written.” 1 Corinthians 4:6
Certainly, there is no reason to Go beyond what is written to know, God promises to save all mankind as it is written.
If
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your hearing a different\new idea and doubt if it's true or a lie .... ask yourself, ..... Is it:
"go[ing] beyond what is written.” 1 Corinthians 4:6
Indeed , it is not written that "not all are saved".
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Is 1 Tim 2:4 written to usurp all other passages like John 3:36
Absolutely not, it is a balance between what God has promised and what men can get themselves into.
But God promises to never forsake or leave us. Some of us just take longer getting there.
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