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Who has the right when it comes to marriage laws? NOT THE CHURCH, this is obvious because the STATES write the LAWS related to MARRIAGE. Therefore, SCOTUS has the RIGHT and the OBLIGATION to REVIEW state laws and decide if they are Constitutional...You continue to argue AGAINST YOUR WORDS AGAIN
The states, of course.
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State Law CANNOT VIOLATE the Constitution...
Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Which is EXACTLY what Justice Kennedy wrote and what 5 other Justices recognized...
No state was denying anyone due process of law over this.
Gays could NOT marry, therefore the LGBT community was being deprived equal protection of the laws.
They were also NOT ALLOWED DUE PROCESS to challenge the law until; it went to SCOTUS...
And SCOTUS disagrees with you by a 5 to 4 margin..
Of course they were allowed to marry. No one ever asked me if I was gay when I got my marriage license, nor did anyone care. There has never been any denial of rights against people simply becasue they like homosexual sex.
Of course they were allowed to marry. No one ever asked me if I was gay when I got my marriage license, nor did anyone care. There has never been any denial of rights against people simply becasue they like homosexual sex.
Moderator cut: Violation of the TOS in wording.
If that was true, why are all the evangelical-fundies upset that SCOTUS ruled gays have the right to marry?
Texas was one of 13 states that banned gay marriage before the Supreme Court ruled on Friday that those bans were unconstitutional, effectively legalizing gay marriage across the country. Therefore, it's not surprising that its lawmakers are trying to resist following the ruling.
Texas was one of 13 states that banned gay marriage before the Supreme Court ruled on Friday that those bans were unconstitutional, effectively legalizing gay marriage across the country. Therefore, it's not surprising that its lawmakers are trying to resist following the ruling.
Do you realize what the question before the court was?
Hint, it did not mention sexual orientation.
I get that. But I'm not aware of any state that specifically banned marriage based on whether a person was gay or straight. So there is no denial of due process to any gay person.
I get that. But I'm not aware of any state that specifically banned marriage based on whether a person was gay or straight. So there is no denial of due process to any gay person.
Yes you are right, as long as the gay person turned straight they could get married. You could even expand that further by passing laws outlawing all other religions but yours as every one has equal opportunity to accept your religion and convert. Did any of the decenting judges use your argument? If not why not as you seem to think it totally covers the issue.
I get that. But I'm not aware of any state that specifically banned marriage based on whether a person was gay or straight. So there is no denial of due process to any gay person.
The states denied marriage based on the sex of the people getting married which is why the court answered the question "Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex?"
No mention of the sexual orientation of those two people, just the sex of the two people.
And we all know that the liberal progressive teachers' unions will push the idea of religious oppression.
Of course, we all know that throughout human history marriage has always been 1 man, 1 woman. But THIS generation is sooooooo smart they have it figured out. Heck...even the President himself was against it a few years ago.
I think people will always have the right to believe in myths, but people will not have the right to oppress others based on those myths.
I must correct you, unions have never been between a man and a woman exclusively. Same-sex unions have existed from the very day humans invented these unions. Remember that this is not a religious invention; it predates all religions by thousands of years to the point where we are unable to know when exactly people began to practise it, but we know they were more strategic for survival and defense against rival clans.
Look at the ancient world, anywhere you look at you will find that same-sex union existed.
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