God isn't fooled-- even by "Christians" (messages, faith, bless)

[KellyJSmith]

Originally Posted by CantWait2Leave

Amen. This verse came to mind. Psalm 119:105 "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path."

Do you know what Amen is ?

I will help you with this one.

Amen, End of Prayer or Egyptian God ?

Amen,

We would like to take the time to mention about a word that we feel is wrong to use, as the bible tells us not to use the names of pagan gods.

Amen, End of Prayer or Egyptian God ?

Originally Posted by WonderingWanderer

That describes the actions of at nearly half the Christians I've known. Churches, too.
If one has a personal relationship with Him, how can they sit in a pew, feeding money to people that live in mansions and drive luxury cars? I've met numerous ministers that have had more plastic surgery than Hollywood stars. Weight the Good Samaritan story against how they treat others. You'll quickly find few will stand. But they'll be the first to point fingers at gays, Muslims, etc.

Benchwarmers, they know verses out of context. They think they have Him living in their heart. And they expect everyone else to do the same. They are the most fake group on the planet. There is no group more judgmental than them. Few have truly studied Jesus as a person, Rabbi, and a God-sent being. They don't even try, they trust the immoral leaders to feed them feel-good stories for an hour or two a week. Their Bibles sit dusty on a bookshelf or a coffee table like some kind of lucky charm.

I wish, truly wish, Jesus would return asap and set things right.

Nice post!
I would like to share with you this and it may answer some questions you have about people who have been indoctrinated.
If you read some of the prior posts you would see there is talk of a personal relationship with Jesus.
Which is obviously people seeking to use tha paranormal.
But it is really just church goers,their groups and leaders trying to find out if a subject has got the message that they were trying to send to the subject.
A confirmation of success.

This thread is about contradictions that are in the bible.
It is to discuss them and offer evidence to support surrounding theories.
In hopes of gaining knowledge towards truth.
I believe we can all stand to learn a little truth and still stay on course towards helping others.
Because that is what it is supposed to boil down to.
Helping others to heal their infermities so they can claim their place in heaven.
If we hold back truth only to support our religious organizations then those organizations are failures to the cause.
And the cause is supposed to be salvation.
Salvation is not something we can give to a person.
It is something the person receives when they are ready to accept it.
A persons infermities dulls that persons senses so they cannot recognize that salvation lays within.
They tend to seek other outside sources for that sense of salvation.
And those sources mask or simply offer a placebo.
A prime example of a placebo is an idol.
Now the typical christian will tend to tell people that idols are bad and witchcraft is bad.
But they do not even seem to truly know what either is.
This is not about christian bashing.
This is about healing infermities verses masking them and giving out placebos.
We have all seen crucifixes,statues of Jesus or saints and portraits of the same.
Many people pray to these things and perform rituals and ceremonies with and in front of them.
I am not saying is does not help them feel better.
I am not even saying it is wrong to do.
What I am saying is it creates a contradiction to the bible that some claim to be their guidance in life.
It was pointed out by Jesus when he was alive on earth.
Jesus seemed to do alot of this.
Simply pointing out the hypocrisies.
And either the person came to their senses or they showed Jesus the very thing he was actually pointing out.
Try this for yourself,point out a hypocrisy in someones religion and listen to what they have to say.
Take note if it makes them angry or even irate.
Find out if they have a real grasp or are just mimmicing others.
It is in the mimmicing where you can see the spirit that lies within them.
And yes I mean lies not lays.
These spirits are not spirits that are holy at all.
They are demons.
Demons meaning demonic attitudes verses harmonic attitudes.
If they were harmonic they would tell the truth.
But they are demonic because they cover up the truth.

Enough of that for now.

Let's discuss contradictions of the bible.
Let's start with the book of Judas.
In the book of Judas ,Judas is told in confidence to turn Jesus in to authorities.
The other disciples did not know this.
So when their scriptures came out there were what seems to be contridictions.
The book of Matthew claims Judas threw down his pay for turning in Jesus and hanged himself in a tree on a hill and a preist took that money and bought a peice of land with it.
The book of Acts claims that Judas bought the land and hanged himself there where his body fell and he split his gut open.

I tell you this.
Judas did not commit suicide in the literal sense.
Judas did as Jesus told him and then purchased land and became an outcast to the up and coming religion because everyone else thought Judas to be a traitor.
Judas had his own written account of what had happened and it was not acknowledged in the bible.

But if you notice the wording in the book of Matthew and the book of Acts that the authors used idioms to describe what happened and I explain it like this.
They used idioms or metaphors so to speak because they did not lie directly but convey that Judas's actions caused his fate.Judas's fate being to tend to the land till his gut split open,he may have even fell from a tree picking fruit..
Have you ever heard the phrase to "split a gut"?
It is an idiom that may mean to laugh real hard or work real hard.
Now as far as the hanging part goes.
Judas was basically an outcast because of how many felt about what he had done and certainly could not join the others in creating a new religion.
So then he was written off,(written off) being another idiom for having an inheritance withheld from.
The new religion was the inheritance that Jesus left for some of his disciples.
Judas was given something better.
Peace of mind and a place to hang his hat,(of course hang his hat is a figure of speech).
Judas was given the opportunity to stay out of the corrupt business of religion.
Many of you have gotten that same blessing.
So !,What say you?

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I meant what I said: without the relationship, there is no salvation.

So does a subject have to prove to you that they have a personal relationship with God ?
I see posters here that seem to have a personal relationship with the Spirit of Truth.
For Truth is more important than religious membership.
You on the other hand like to claim you have something that the others cannot have unless they confirm something to you.
I tell you this.
Millstone around your neck is how Jesus would describe your actions.

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I meant what I said: without the relationship, there is no salvation.

It is not you or your group who gets salvation and who doesn't.
As you should have learned that in your bibble.

Originally Posted by WonderingWanderer

That's not an answer (not specific at all, ie the entire Word?) but I'm not going to press the issue lest I end up getting banned.

I will help you.
The poster is relying on the old saying children at on time used.
"I know something you don't know!"
Those kids could not explain what they knew nothing of.

Why do you put down trailers and say they are not real houses?
Many people have trailers as houses.
You put people down but in a different fashion.
CONFIRMED!

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

It is not my way, it is God's way.



What makes you assume we live in trailers? And so what if we did? Do you look down on people who can't afford to live in a real house?



Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me

[CantWait2Leave]

Originally Posted by KellyJSmith

Do you know what Amen is ?

I will help you with this one.

Amen, End of Prayer or Egyptian God ?

Amen,

We would like to take the time to mention about a word that we feel is wrong to use, as the bible tells us not to use the names of pagan gods.

Amen, End of Prayer or Egyptian God ?

Um okay. Since when do you follow the Bible? I asked you what your religion was and you told me something about Jesus living in Japan.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Oh, it comes directly from Jesus. Praise the Lord!!! Thanks for asking (questioning/doubting).

Why are you ignoring my questions, Finn. Your are the one stressing the importance of the personal relationship with Jesus and I agree with you. I have one and have explained many times in detail how and when it occurs. Why are you not forthcoming about the conditions of your encounters with Him.

[KellyJSmith]

VERY NICE!
Another day of God is not fooled..even by Christians.
I don't know about you ,but I see who are really following Gods goodness.
And those that try and suckle it instead of growing up with it and becoming mature in it.
Those suckling infants have a lot to learn if they where only not deaf and blind it would be so much easier.
I guess that is what happens when people worship using AMEN the God that means "hidden".

Originally Posted by CantWait2Leave

Um okay. Since when do you follow the Bible? I asked you what your religion was and you told me something about Jesus living in Japan.

You use leading questions that could give the wrong impression.

Like this one I am responding to.

I do not follow the bible persay.
But in order to reference something one must read it.
People are coming to this board because it is about christians that try and fool God and man.

Those that claim the bible are showing that they are all about fooling.
And it can be shown using the bible and other ancient and modern resources.

I am not a member of any religious organization.
And I did tell you such a thing,NO!

I did use an idiom to see how yo would take it.
You just did not get it.

Did you read about Jesus going to Japan getting married ,fathered 3 girls and living to be 111?

And what was found in the tombs of Jesus and Mary ?

[WonderingWanderer]

Originally Posted by KellyJSmith

I will help you.
The poster is relying on the old saying children at on time used.
"I know something you don't know!"
Those kids could not explain what they knew nothing of.

That's good! Really good.

[KellyJSmith]

Originally Posted by WonderingWanderer

That's good! Really good.

We all contribute to Team Truth.
You do really good yourself.

[CantWait2Leave]

Originally Posted by KellyJSmith

You use leading questions that could give the wrong impression.

Like this one I am responding to.

I do not follow the bible persay.
But in order to reference something one must read it.
People are coming to this board because it is about christians that try and fool God and man.

Those that claim the bible are showing that they are all about fooling.
And it can be shown using the bible and other ancient and modern resources.

I am not a member of any religious organization.
And I did tell you such a thing,NO!

I did use an idiom to see how yo would take it.
You just did not get it.

Did you read about Jesus going to Japan getting married ,fathered 3 girls and living to be 111?

And what was found in the tombs of Jesus and Mary ?

Nothing you say makes any sense to me. It's almost as if we are speaking a different language. I read and reread your posts and I don't understand what you are talking about. I don't have this problem with anyone else on here. I'm not trying to be rude.

[KellyJSmith]

Originally Posted by CantWait2Leave

Nothing you say makes any sense to me. It's almost as if we are speaking a different language. I read and reread your posts and I don't understand what you are talking about. I don't have this problem with anyone else on here. I'm not trying to be rude.

I beleive you.
What is most confusing?
Me bad english structure?
AMEN!
IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.
YOU ARE FORGIVEN.

Originally Posted by Ilene Wright

You mean it's an idiot thing? Come on, dumb it down for the rest of us. Just say what you mean, in plain English.

No need to change my words.
I stated IDIOM.
It is not my fault you do not understand what idioms are and there is over 25,000 of them in the english language and some people prefer them because it helps them to make sense of something because the truth is to painful.
That is other than the fact that people have a hard time understanding when they come across unfamiliar words.
Like you did.
You did not know what idiom meant.
Now if the post was more complex or full of run on sentences then you would have been totally lost.
Instead you tried to make it out that I was calling people dumb.
When it was not me that called for dumbing down the dialogue.
If you want a higher level of understanding you must be willing to accept it.
If not.
Then stay with those that are trying to fool man and God.
As you see the title of the thread.
Some of us know it can't be done.
So you might as well stick with people that continue to fool themselves.

What do you want clarification of ?

[Ilene Wright]

Originally Posted by KellyJSmith

No need to change my words.
I stated IDIOM.
It is not my fault you do not understand what idioms are and there is over 25,000 of them in the english language and some people prefer them because it helps them to make sense of something because the truth is to painful.
That is other than the fact that people have a hard time understanding when they come across unfamiliar words.
Like you did.
You did not know what idiom meant.
Now if the post was more complex or full of run on sentences then you would have been totally lost.
Instead you tried to make it out that I was calling people dumb.
When it was not me that called for dumbing down the dialogue.
If you want a higher level of understanding you must be willing to accept it.
If not.
Then stay with those that are trying to fool man and God.
As you see the title of the thread.
Some of us know it can't be done.
So you might as well stick with people that continue to fool themselves.

What do you want clarification of ?

I know what an idiom is, don't pull that crap. Stop your nonsense and speak to the OP at hand. Enough is enough. Get real, no one is buying your off the wall nonsense.

[KellyJSmith]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

It is not my way, it is God's way.



What makes you assume we live in trailers? And so what if we did? Do you look down on people who can't afford to live in a real house?



Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me

I have a bible question for you.
How many spirits does God have?
And which one have you opened the door to and let in?

Originally Posted by Ilene Wright

I know what an idiom is, don't pull that crap. Stop your nonsense and speak to the OP at hand. Enough is enough. Get real, no one is buying your off the wall nonsense.

I am real.
I will ask only one more time.
What do you want clarification of ?
Huh little princess?

PS,I am not the one selling anything.

How much did you sell your soul for?

It is usually in return for a promise of eternal life.
Reference John 3:16

Come on.
The thread is about God is not fooled even by christians.

I have a Bible handy,a cross on a stick,a smudgepot fired up and am chanting.
What could go wrong?
Oh yes the beads,I found some beads.

I am ready now,shoot!

I better clarify.

Shoot the message not the messager like you did last time.

Maybe you better sit down.
Stand up
Sit down
stand up
sit down
Stand up
Sit down
stand up
sit down
Stand up
Sit down
stand up
sit down

OK are you conditioned enough?

Now sing!

Still not ready?

OK,Now get in line and march.
You get to hold a flag today.
Don't forget to gently wave it.

That's good,you are a good little princess.
Now you know what to do.

I was just reading a book I have titled The Books Of The Bible.
It does not have any numbered chapters and is not cut up into verses.
Closest thing to the original Bible format.

So the best I can help you is this is in the book of Matthew some where between chapter 26 and 28.

What strikes me as strange is this sentence.

That is why it has been called the Field Of Blood till this day.

Why the explanation of why this field had a vague nickname?

So I went and looked at the book Luke-Acts.

Does your Bible have this book?

In Acts chapter 1 there is a sentence that also seemed strange.

Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this,so they called that field in their language Akeldama,that is,Field Of Blood.

Same vague nickname.

Must be the same place,right?

But how could it be?

The only similarity is that Judas is associated with it.

Well let's see what is in the book of Judas .

The Gospel of Judas does not specify the fate of Judas, although in the gospel, Judas tells Jesus he has had a vision where he is stoned to death by the eleven remaining apostles.

Well that certainly would be bloody.

I'm x gnosted tonight,Ta Ta.