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Old 03-23-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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Good grief, what if you fail the test?
Those who oppose God have the answer...it's called "dumbing down God's TOS" (terms of salvation)

When you can dumb down God's TOS to the point that it's indistinguishable between an athesist from a Satanist from a Muslim from a cultist from a Christian ...... then the enlightened you shall be and only then God is a "loving God"
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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Baseless accusation.
Listen to what you are saying, you do not remember your former self, if you do not see that it was Christ alone that found you in your state, that rather than passing you by(how you teach he does if you don't say i believe in Jesus), but rather he came to where we was, took pity upon us bandaged our wounds and then poured oil and wine.



But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Those who oppose God have the answer...it's called "dumbing down God's TOS" (terms of salvation)

When you can dumb down God's TOS to the point that it's indistinguishable between an athesist from a Satanist from a Muslim from a cultist from a Christian ...... then the enlightened you shall be and only then God is a "loving God"
Jesus met the TOS, twin . . . our entire species has been connected to God through Jesus in human form and consciousness. We have nothing to do with salvation. What we build or not on His foundation determines our eternal fate, period.
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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Good grief, what if you fail the test?
The test is not one to pass or fail, but to reveal what is in our heart. This what the word does, it discern the heart of man and judges the thoughts and attitudes of it.

We are commanded to teach that he is the Savior of All men, yet the Fundy say's we are in error and heretics for doing so.

Paul even says it's a trustworthy saying and deserves full acceptance to teach that he's the Savior of All men, yet in the ear of the Fundy it's blasphemy.


9This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance 10(and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
11Command and teach these things.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:09 PM
 
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The test is not one to pass or fail, but to reveal what is in our heart. This what the word does, it discern the heart of man and judges the thoughts and attitudes of it.
I see. So, Jesus says something, and if you believe it, then you are the sucker who failed the test.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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I see. So, Jesus says something, and if you believe it, then you are the sucker who failed the test.
No FJ,i said it is not a test to pass or fail, it reveals what is in your heart. In Sara's case it revealed unbelief.

How can something as good as dead bring forth life ? was basically her thought that was revealed.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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Those who oppose God have the answer...it's called "dumbing down God's TOS" (terms of salvation)

When you can dumb down God's TOS to the point that it's indistinguishable between an athesist from a Satanist from a Muslim from a cultist from a Christian ...... then the enlightened you shall be and only then God is a "loving God"
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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Those who oppose God have the answer...it's called "dumbing down God's TOS" (terms of salvation)

When you can dumb down God's TOS to the point that it's indistinguishable between an athesist from a Satanist from a Muslim from a cultist from a Christian ...... then the enlightened you shall be and only then God is a "loving God"
What TOS did the Good Samaritan(Jesus Christ) give to the poor sinner robbed and beaten on the way ?.

Or did ONE act of Amazing kindness change the poor sinners life forever ? Romans 2 verse 4
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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No FJ,i said it is not a test to pass or fail, it reveals what is in your heart. In Sara's case it revealed unbelief
So, if you believe Jesus' teaching about afterlife, then you will be judged for harboring that thought in your heart? The only way to avoid the truth is to reject His words, and that may well be what UR is all about.
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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So, if you believe Jesus' teaching about afterlife, then you will be judged for harboring that thought in your heart? The only way to avoid the truth is to reject His words, and that may well be what UR is all about.
Come again

I know from the scriptures that he wants all men saved . I am thinking the same thoughts of God by being in agreement with him.

I believe without a doubt that it's possible and he's able to do so, i'm not wavering,staggering or weak in faith in believing God does is able to do what he desires.
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