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Old 03-23-2011, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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When the veil is taken away FJ you will see Jesus, while it remains you will see all that the Pharisee saw.
I see. And when your veil is taken away, then you will see. Sigh.....Have a nice day.
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:22 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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I see. And when your veil is taken away, then you will see. Sigh.....Have a nice day.
See what ? A God of destruction ?,sorry it will never happen. Jesus came that we might have life, the devil came to steal, kill and destroy, how hard is this to understand. When do you believe the devil showed up ? 2000 years ago ?pftt. He was stealing , killing and destroying from the beginning.
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:42 PM
 
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Why do we believe God is not able to save all those that are lost
Because He said He wouldn't. He only came for the 'lost sheep OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL". So, unless you are grafted into this vine,,you will be burned unto destruction in the Fire that Consumes.
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:34 PM
 
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Because He said He wouldn't. He only came for the 'lost sheep OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL". So, unless you are grafted into this vine,,you will be burned unto destruction in the Fire that Consumes.
Not only for the lost sheep OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, BUT ALL WHO HAVE GONE ASTRAY.

"Out of the RIGHT, GOOD, AND ACCEPTABLE way; into error."
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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"The unveiling reveals the wickedness of your own heart, leaving you naked."
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:53 PM
 
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When God never gives up ?

“Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.’ In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Luke 15:8-10

How would you actually feel if your belief was that God gave up finding all that was lost .(if you don't believe all are found, that is what you really believe)only to discover he found all that were lost ?

I think many of us have forgotten he found us.




God is not a liar. And God tells us that most of the world will be lost. Only by pulling verses out of context, or by twisting Gods words can you make people believe anything else. Jesus tells us that now is the day of salvation, now is the appointed time. You do not get saved after death.
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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God is not a liar. And God tells us that most of the world will be lost. Only by pulling verses out of context, or by twisting Gods words can you make people believe anything else. Jesus tells us that now is the day of salvation, now is the appointed time. You do not get saved after death.
We are all LOST until we are FOUND. Jesus will lose nothing that the Father has given to him and the scriptures declare that Abba Father has given Jesus ALL THINGS.

All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. - Matthew 11:27
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:13 AM
 
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"Now, if Christ had not come into the world, there would have been no redemption. And if Christ had not risen from the dead, or broken the bands of death that the grave should have no victory,
and that death should have no sting, there would have been no resurrection. But there is a resurrection, therefore, the grave has no victory; and the sting of death is swallowed up in Christ."
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:17 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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God is not a liar. And God tells us that most of the world will be lost. Only by pulling verses out of context, or by twisting Gods words can you make people believe anything else. Jesus tells us that now is the day of salvation, now is the appointed time. You do not get saved after death.
True God is not a liar, but your statement has no truth in it. For God has not said most of the world will be lost, you did. God never said that a man cannot be saved after death, you did.Please do not insult the word of God by saying you are one of a few that found a narrow way, you never found anything, it was Jesus Christ who came seeking after you and found you.

You too can twist the word to make it say what you want. There is an appointed time for all to believe, that is their day of Salvation. No one comes on their own accord and no one comes before time. You believe a lie to think anyone can decide and come when they want. Salvation comes to us, not the other way around.You won't accept this though because you believe you decided when you would come, you truely believer that while you were dead in trespasses and sin you decided to find Jesus, when all the time it was Jesus seeking you out and came to where you were.
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:33 AM
 
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Because He said He wouldn't. He only came for the 'lost sheep OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL". So, unless you are grafted into this vine,,you will be burned unto destruction in the Fire that Consumes.
And God is no respecter of person.


He came unto his own(the house of israel), and his own(the house of israel) received him not. But as many as received him(an whosoever), to them(an whosoever) gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them(an whosoever) that believe on his name: John 1:11-12

We also know from the scriptures that, No man can come to Jesus Christ, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:John 6:44.
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