Can satan...? (doctrine, praying, Jesus Christ, marriage)

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I said "the peace (devil's peace) is used only as a tool and stepping stone to achieve his real goals".

Daniel 8:25; "By peace he shall destroy many," and "he shall come in peaceably and obtain the kingdom by flatteries"

What translation is that ?

[ahigherway]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

PS I never said peace is satan. Why would you twist my words like that?

Can you explain how satan can "use peace?" How can peace be "a deception?"


Blessings,
brian

[SC122]

well,I don't think anyone can deny that satan was behind the holocaust...lotta love there...NOT:

Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day - Atlas Shrugs

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by ahigherway

Can you explain how satan can "use peace?" How can peace be "a deception?"

Can you imagine an unstable world full of war and fear of more war, even a global world war, or a nuclear war? Well, if anti-Christ can offer to end it, and offer peace instead, he would be hugely popular. Wouldn't you agree? He would be hailed as a "saviour" of the world, and elevated to a position of a world leader. But it is only a deception, because he will later use his position to kill hundreds of millions of people.

[ahigherway]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Can you imagine an unstable world full of war and fear of more war, even a global world war, or a nuclear war? Well, if anti-Christ can offer to end it, and offer peace instead, he would be hugely popular. Wouldn't you agree? He would be hailed as a "saviour" of the world, and elevated to a position of a world leader. But it is only a deception, because he will later use his position to kill hundreds of millions of people.

Sounds to me like your scenario has been repeated often in history already! Hitler is a prime example, I'd say.

And I don't suppose it can't happen again..

Blessings,
brian

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by ahigherway

Sounds to me like your scenario has been repeated often in history already! Hitler is a prime example, I'd say.

No, Hitler never brought peace to any nation. There was no war in Germany when he was elected to power. There was economic chaos though, but that was only one country. But yes, there has been many who capitalize on unstability, and AC will do it in global scale.

[Capt. Dan]

"Satan" can't do a damn thing. Because "he" doesn't exist!

[trettep]

Originally Posted by ahigherway

...love?
...show compassion?
...have mercy?
...encourage to good works?
...do things that are good?
...be kind?
...forgive?
...be selfless?
...do anything that is good?
...make peace?
...do anything other than steal, kill and destroy?

If someone shows us love, can that love be satanic? Methinks not..

Curious to hear your thoughts!

Blessings,
brian

I suppose if the love is such that you don't have to love those that persecute you or despise you then it could be useless so therefore, I suppose Satan can love:

Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

If there is no reward for that kind of love then that kind of love is useless and good for nothing. Sounds like the work of Satan (uselessness).

[ahigherway]

Originally Posted by trettep

I suppose if the love is such that you don't have to love those that persecute you or despise you then it could be useless so therefore, I suppose Satan can love:

Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

If there is no reward for that kind of love then that kind of love is useless and good for nothing. Sounds like the work of Satan (uselessness).

I think I would call what you describe here, "feigning love."
It is possible to feign (fake) love, peace, kindness, etc. And this feigning is falsity. And falsity is a devil tactic.

I think that if something is genuinely good, then it is of God. If something is honest or sincere, then it is of God.

One thing I've seen happen a lot in Christian circles (and I admit I have also been guilty of myself) is dodging questions.
Dodging questions is feigning to know when we don't, and there is falsity there. It is another devil tactic.
I think it happens among Christians in particular because the Bible is full of things that no one understands, and so when questioned, rather than answering "I don't know," which would at least be honest and not a devil tactic, people want to give the impression that they "know it all." And then when they can't give an answer, they are discovered.
It's better to say "I don't know" then to be found to be feigning to know.

But if something is good, it is good period. Satan can probably feign goodness, but if the consequences are negative, then it is not inherantly good.

Likewise, if something is evil, it cannot be "good." Torturing people is always evil. There is no "good torture." Nor is there "good lying" or "good killing."

"Every good and perfect gift is from above." James 1.17
An "unbeliever" who performs an act of charity is manifesting a gift from God.


Blessings,
brian

[miyu]

Originally Posted by ahigherway

...love?
...show compassion?
...have mercy?
...encourage to good works?
...do things that are good?
...be kind?
...forgive?
...be selfless?
...do anything that is good?
...make peace?
...do anything other than steal, kill and destroy?

If someone shows us love, can that love be satanic? Methinks not..

Curious to hear your thoughts!

Blessings,
brian

According to the Satanic teachings, Satanists can do all of the above. So why not Satan? The only caveat is that Satanists aren't forced to do kind acts for everyone, only people they think are deserving of their good will.