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Old 04-29-2011, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Arena valleygirl View Post

wow David a sinner, living in sin..
He certainly was a sinner, not an example for us to follow, except in showing us the mercy and grace of God for sinners. Yet he suffered for his sins and his children suffered for them after them, and his sins were multiplied in Solomon, who sinned and went against God -read 1 Kings chapter 11 to see that Solomon's wives led him astray.

Originally Posted by Arena valleygirl View Post
the father of faith living in sin?
The father of "faith" believed God, and that was counted unto him for righteousness. as God said; but he gave the world Ishmael for heeding Sarah and taking Hagar from her to bear a child -whom Sarah wanted to raise as her own. Woe to the world for that deed, and woe to Israel for that deed! -but Abraham received grace and mercy. He sent Hagar away by Sarah's demand.
After Sarah was dead, he married Keturah, who had six sons for Abraham, who did not curse the world, like Ishmael.
Even at that, Abraham is not the Savior, who created Adam, pre-incarnation, in His own image of God the Word who was to come [Romans 5:14]; and who gave Adam one wife, built from his bone and flesh -and by his one Adam spirit [Malachi 2:15]

Originally Posted by Arena valleygirl View Post
Jacob living in sin?
Jacob's life was pathetic. He was a very weak man, but God's mercy and grace to him shows that God is merciful to all, and that His strength is perfected in weakness. Read his full life story in the real book of Jasher.

Even at that, Jacob was not the Savior, who created Adam "male and female", not "male and female, female, female..".

Originally Posted by Arena valleygirl View Post
Moses living in sin? and he did have sex with her, the second wife
No, Moses never "lived in sin", as you say. That is slander against the written word. Moses of course had sexual union with his wife, the Midianite woman, Zipporah, and had two children by her after they were married, which was only three years before his 80th year, and his two children by her were age one and two when he departed to Egypt -and he sent them back with the mother when Aaron rebuked him for bringing them. You can read the account in the real book of Jasher.

And Moses first was legally married to an Ethiopian queen, the widow of the departed king of Ethiopia. When the Ethiopians wanted Moses to reign over them, but he was not Ethiopian, they made it "ok", by giving him the late king's widow as wife,;but that was politically expedient, only, and the only record of that is in the Book of Jasher; and both the author [whom I believe is Moses, redacting history], and the queen herself, state that Moses never went "in to her" -a sexual term.
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