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Unread 04-29-2011, 06:35 PM
 
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Default The whole Universe 6300 years old about from the Bible

If you go from Genesis(geneologies)
to Exodus,
thru the kings
and then to the rebuilding of Jerusalem by Ezra and Neh you will find a simple line and about 6287 years ago to date creation of the whole universe in six days, including the earth stars, sun, space etc.

God knows what He is doing, most good bibles, usually older ones have much of it, and Haleys handbook and strongs concordance have many pieces too
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Unread 04-29-2011, 09:23 PM
 
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If you go from Genesis(geneologies)
to Exodus,
thru the kings
and then to the rebuilding of Jerusalem by Ezra and Neh you will find a simple line and about 6287 years ago to date creation of the whole universe in six days, including the earth stars, sun, space etc.

God knows what He is doing, most good bibles, usually older ones have much of it, and Haleys handbook and strongs concordance have many pieces too
So before the Universe, what was there? and what did God do??

And what space did God dwell in??
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Unread 04-29-2011, 09:43 PM
 
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He was in heaven, with the angels and all else He has always created, other universes or all that He always has done, He did not begin creating one day. He is Creator, He was not alone, He always has created and He creates life. Angels are not part of this universe, so you figure that He probably has other things that are not just Him and angels, like houses, flowers, animals of other kinds?, other creatures?

It doesn't talk about it much, but He did not become Creator, He is Creator. To think God always did not Create and then one day He began Creating, that is limited thinking. Time is created, Wind, What about Water, had to be food and water in heaven before creation, He does eat you know. He can not be contained He is everywhere and does not change, I do not have all the answers, but you know the heavens can not contain Him. Infinite and Eternal Love, angels work, so work was there. But fun, no worries until Lucifer decided he wanted some trouble, but him and the third didn't quite make it in heaven, down here now. So you figure, there was not always sin, it began with Satan, the father of lies, and he is full of them, deception is his tool and destruction is his game. Souls he is after.

arena
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Unread 04-29-2011, 10:32 PM
 
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He was in heaven, with the angels and all else He has always created, other universes or all that He always has done, He did not begin creating one day. He is Creator, He was not alone, He always has created and He creates life. Angels are not part of this universe, so you figure that He probably has other things that are not just Him and angels, like houses, flowers, animals of other kinds?, other creatures?

It doesn't talk about it much, but He did not become Creator, He is Creator. To think God always did not Create and then one day He began Creating, that is limited thinking. Time is created, Wind, What about Water, had to be food and water in heaven before creation, He does eat you know. He can not be contained He is everywhere and does not change, I do not have all the answers, but you know the heavens can not contain Him. Infinite and Eternal Love, angels work, so work was there. But fun, no worries until Lucifer decided he wanted some trouble, but him and the third didn't quite make it in heaven, down here now. So you figure, there was not always sin, it began with Satan, the father of lies, and he is full of them, deception is his tool and destruction is his game. Souls he is after.

arena
Go in peace and love, Arena Valley girl...I slay demons, not the innocently well intentioned...

And your innocently well intentioned...the second one I've encountered tonight...

Ask, the god you pray to, to send a little mercy my way tonight...later...
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Unread 04-30-2011, 04:11 AM
 
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Legally the seven solar days mark the dawn of all creation as the bible literally says ... But there are many people who do not believe that the earth and the universe was created on these legal Words of God and by not believing will not be a grave error as many think ......... My belief is that science is somewhat right to believe that the universe is 13.7 billions years old and after some 600 million year old after the creation it collapse and then expands beyond the imagination , then after the Heaven was created the earth was created 3.4 billions years ago ..... the devil became a trouble before Adam was created , and became a direct enemy to the Lord .... Adam was created as the first born to have direct relation with the Lord God around 4004 B.C. ....... See atheist Science says 13.7 billions years old be leave out the Lord God created it , but it does not say that no one can not believe the Lord did not create the universe
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Unread 04-30-2011, 05:08 AM
 
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Legally the seven solar days mark the dawn of all creation as the bible literally says ... But there are many people who do not believe that the earth and the universe was created on these legal Words of God and by not believing will not be a grave error as many think ......... My belief is that science is somewhat right to believe that the universe is 13.7 billions years old and after some 600 million year old after the creation it collapse and then expands beyond the imagination , then after the Heaven was created the earth was created 3.4 billions years ago ..... the devil became a trouble before Adam was created , and became a direct enemy to the Lord .... Adam was created as the first born to have direct relation with the Lord God around 4004 B.C. ....... See atheist Science says 13.7 billions years old be leave out the Lord God created it , but it does not say that no one can not believe the Lord did not create the universe

It wasn't necessarily 7 solar days.

Yes, one of the meanings of the Hebrew word yowm (translated as "day")is a 24 hour period, but it has other meanings which might just as easily apply. It can mean anything from a year, to a day as we understand it, to a general but un-defined period of time. Temporally, it can simply mean "yesterday, today or tomorrow." In Genesis, it is defined as the time period between evening and morning, without any indication of how many "hours" that was. In any case, God is not limited to existing in linear time. Time, as we understand it, means nothing to Him.

We readily accept the principle that a day is like unto 1000 years for God, and that when Daniel spoke of "weeks," he really didn't mean 7 days, yet we cling to the idea that the "days" in Genesis must be 24 hour days. I personally don't see any reason to do so.

And, there's this to consider: We can measure the speed of light and it seems to be constant throughout the universe. So much so that we measure distances in the universe by light years, the distance light travels in a year. Right now, our best calculation is the the edge of the VISIBLE universe is 15 billion light years away. If we accept the preposterous idea that the universe is only 6000 years old, we'd have to accept that the light from that most distant point began its journey here literally billions of years before its source was even created!

That just doesn't make sense, does it?
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Unread 04-30-2011, 06:10 AM
 
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If you go from Genesis(geneologies)
to Exodus,
thru the kings
and then to the rebuilding of Jerusalem by Ezra and Neh you will find a simple line and about 6287 years ago to date creation of the whole universe in six days, including the earth stars, sun, space etc.

God knows what He is doing, most good bibles, usually older ones have much of it, and Haleys handbook and strongs concordance have many pieces too
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>>The whole Universe 6300 years old about from the Bible <<

Is that what the Bible says? Do you believe such a statement is "God breathed"???
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Unread 04-30-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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With child arithmatic a child could add the geneologies to the return of the Jews in Ezra with Cyrus's command to rebuild it, but an warrior will never see them if they are posted, and you know those that thru Christian history have added those get about the number I am telling you,

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day, and hallowed it, Ex 20:11

those are not any more than 24 hour days, we did not have 7, 1000 year each days and then start 24 hour days, people just don't want to accept Gods Word becasue they don't want the Truth.

Remember Adam was created on the sixth day and he only lived 930 years I think, and that was not 2, 1000 year days and then... funny people all of you are fighting and wresting scripture to your own destruction, why not have faith in six days of creation and God's Word, it is Rock and I stand on it.

with love arena, in the valley
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Unread 04-30-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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With child arithmatic a child could add the geneologies to the return of the Jews in Ezra with Cyrus's command to rebuild it, but an warrior will never see them if they are posted, and you know those that thru Christian history have added those get about the number I am telling you,

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day, and hallowed it, Ex 20:11

those are not any more than 24 hour days, we did not have 7, 1000 year each days and then start 24 hour days, people just don't want to accept Gods Word becasue they don't want the Truth.

Remember Adam was created on the sixth day and he only lived 930 years I think, and that was not 2, 1000 year days and then... funny people all of you are fighting and wresting scripture to your own destruction, why not have faith in six days of creation and God's Word, it is Rock and I stand on it.

with love arena, in the valley
How do you reconcile those 6000 years with scientific evidence suggesting billions of years?
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Unread 04-30-2011, 05:35 PM
 
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OY VEY......you can hold any beliefs you want but this one contradicts Scientific Fact>>>>>

The Universe is approximately 14 BILLION years old>>>>>>

Age of the universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the Universe's "baby picture".........

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../WMAP_2010.png

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