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Old 05-03-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Italy
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This is a lie, brian . . . there most certainly are . . . and they come in all shapes, sizes and degrees of evil intent. With the exception of your judgmental "dirty laundry" snark . . . this is obvious and just happens to be part and parcel of the reality we must deal with in this world. So do all decent human beings, brian . . . you are not special. This blanket generalization is obviously false and a clear sign of your bigotry . . . as are most generalized prejudices. Americans are people like any others and they can understand the very same things you do. We are not divided on the compassion side, brian. The issues that divide us are the perceived (and practical) methods available to us mere mortals to minimize the evil. It is always disappointing to encounter any Christian who is so bigoted. You are the one attributing the motives to vengeance, brian.
Peace, Mystic
The US has well-exceeded the violence of Bin laden. I'm sorry you can't see that.

Maybe this will help:
The Ability to Kill Osama Bin Laden Does Not Make America Great | Common Dreams

If you think I'm bigoted because I believe we must all strive to do as Jesus commands, then so be it. I'm a bigot.


Blessings,
brian

 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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It is the removal of evil from among us that provokes the reaction, Iron . . . not the death of the particular person. Sending evil away from the earth and into the hands of our loving God is not a sad event for a Christian . . . don't we all look forward to going there ourselves?
Every person should judge themselves and live according to their own convictions of conscience ...

If you ask me, most people are completely deceived by the whole charade of "the war on terror" taking place on earth today. Hasn't anyone here ever read 1984?

So many gullible and naive people completely bamboozled by the wicked agendas and lies of the powers that be ...

Killing Osama will not change anything, it will only make a martyr out of him. Another will rise to take his place ... Were are essentially trading one enemy for another in the end.

Osama was a CIA shill ... Just another patsy set up to take the heat for crimes against humanity committed by the worlds shadow governments.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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God puts all powers into place. Therefore who are we, mere men, to say which government is to rise or fall? It is God's doing alone.

BTW, as the tornadoes are mentioned here, which killed 300+ people, should we make war against God for the tornadoes? Should we exterminate God for His power? Can we bomb a tornado, or get revenge on a storm?

Man is put to silence when faced with what he cannot control. Bin Laden is the posterboy of evil, but it is not Bin Laden, but satan and flesh which rule in the heart of man, which is the enemy.

We do not have the power to give life, and it is not our place to take away life.
The celebration of Osama's death (which I unfortunately expected, because I know American very well) is not Christian.

"Render NOT evil for evil, but good." "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord."

"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy."

Are we following Christ in deeds, or just in words?


Blessings to all,
brian
A gracious post from you, Brian. Thank you.

Standing only in His grace and peace -
Heartsong
 
Old 05-03-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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Every person should judge themselves and live according to their own convictions of conscience ...

If you ask me, most people are completely deceived by the whole charade of "the war on terror" taking place on earth today. Hasn't anyone here ever read 1984?

So many gullible and naive people completely bamboozled by the wicked agendas and lies of the powers that be ...

Killing Osama will not change anything, it will only make a martyr out of him. Another will rise to take his place ... Were are essentially trading one enemy for another in the end.

Osama was a CIA shill ... Just another patsy set up to take the heat for crimes against humanity committed by the worlds shadow governments.

In general I agree, even though I don't disagree with going after Osama, I also know that Terrorism isn't dependant on Osama being alive either. In fact judging by the reaction of a percentage of muslims over the burning of their Quran in comparison to the killing of Osama I would suggest that a different type of terrorist network is already in place to the degree that Osama Bin ladens Death is quite meaningless to that effect.

Osama has been a terrorist smoke screen for quite some time now in my opinion.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Here
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This question has been on my mind today. My initial reaction to the cheering in the streets was a feeling of embarrassment.

Is it morally right to celebrate bin Laden's death?
I found the public celebration kind of odd, for lack of a better word. Ironically, the celebrating in the streets that I saw had a kind of Mid-East spirit to it. On the other hand, I don't personally see anything morally wrong with it. However I have no desire to celebrate such a thing. The terrorist's demise brings me no joy, per se. But I can't deny that the world is better off without Bin Laden. His death has improved the human species.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Romans 13 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer
 
Old 05-03-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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Every person should judge themselves and live according to their own convictions of conscience ...

If you ask me, most people are completely deceived by the whole charade of "the war on terror" taking place on earth today. Hasn't anyone here ever read 1984?

So many gullible and naive people completely bamboozled by the wicked agendas and lies of the powers that be ...

Killing Osama will not change anything, it will only make a martyr out of him. Another will rise to take his place ... Were are essentially trading one enemy for another in the end.

Osama was a CIA shill ... Just another patsy set up to take the heat for crimes against humanity committed by the worlds shadow governments.
Clearly you are privy to inside information that I do not have access to . . . nor do many Americans I would guess. I will not debate politics with you, my brother. Peace.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 05:08 PM
 
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OP,

It is not morally right, but who are we to judge the one who celebrates? Let all be judged by the Spirit. If that was the only wrong they did all their lives, they sure will make heaven!!

On reflection, I think there is one flaw in the question: you assume that death in itself is an end. It is not, it only frees up that invisible part of Man- the Spirit - to operate freely. When an evil person dies, he can reincarnate into many more evil people. Death should actually be demystified. It does not exist in the way we think. The being is only on transfer from one plane to another.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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OP,

It is not morally right, but who are we to judge the one who celebrates? Let all be judged by the Spirit. If that was the only wrong they did all their lives, they sure will make heaven!!

On reflection, I think there is one flaw in the question: you assume that death in itself is an end. It is not, it only frees up that invisible part of Man- the Spirit - to operate freely. When an evil person dies, he can reincarnate into many more evil people. Death should actually be demystified. It does not exist in the way we think. The being is only on transfer from one plane to another.
You are basically attempting to justify murder with that "logic."
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