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Unread 05-04-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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Default Verses that 'trip you up'

Before or after you became a Christian, were there any verses, particularly in the NT, you had real difficulty accepting? Or took a long time to really agree with/understand?

I won't list the specific verses, but in my case they mainly have to do with the sayings of Jesus. More specifically the ones about hell, Jesus referencing Noah, how he would return in a generation.etc, as well as those about astronomy (those that I thought seemed to suggest an unscientific view of the universe). Also the one about blasphemers never having forgiveness disturbed me and caused me anxiety for awhile.

Also how did you deal/reconcile these verses? Especially when you are taught that it's all literal and must be accepted.

In my case I reconciled them when I learned about CI, and how it actually made more sense in the light of things. Christ suddenly didn't seem as scary when he wasn't threatening eternal torture to those who were unfortunately to be 'turned away' when they knocked on the heavenly door.
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Unread 05-04-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Before or after you became a Christian, were there any verses, particularly in the NT, you had real difficulty accepting? Or took a long time to really agree with/understand?

I won't list the specific verses, but in my case they mainly have to do with the sayings of Jesus. More specifically the ones about hell, Jesus referencing Noah, how he would return in a generation.etc, as well as those about astronomy (those that I thought seemed to suggest an unscientific view of the universe). Also the one about blasphemers never having forgiveness disturbed me and caused me anxiety for awhile.

Also how did you deal/reconcile these verses? Especially when you are taught that it's all literal and must be accepted.

In my case I reconciled them when I learned about CI, and how it actually made more sense in the light of things. Christ suddenly didn't seem as scary when he wasn't threatening eternal torture to those who were unfortunately to be 'turned away' when they knocked on the heavenly door.
First off start with a good Bible. The Authorized King James Version (not new due to translational discrepancies) is considered the closest to the original scripts. It's not perfect but the errors are more well known.

Considering Heaven and Hell, Chuck Missler explains how science correlates with this reality.

YouTube - Chuck Missler: What Happens When You Die? - The Mystery of Our Destiny Pt 1

Considering the Day's of Noah, you might find this very interesting.

YouTube - Pyramids, Planets & the Bible - 1/6 Chuck Missler

Keep in mind, I've only posted part 1 of the series for both. Amazingly there is a logical explanation for everything in the Bible.
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Unread 05-04-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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YouTube - Noah and The Nephilim 1-8 Chuck Missler
Day's of Noah
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Unread 05-04-2011, 09:12 PM
 
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Also how did you deal/reconcile these verses? Especially when you are taught that it's all literal and must be accepted.

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I reconciled them by coming to the conclusion that its not all literal....your results may vary
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Unread 05-05-2011, 10:19 PM
 
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First off start with a good Bible. The Authorized King James Version (not new due to translational discrepancies) is considered the closest to the original scripts.
No it isn't. It is considered closest by some, and considered the least accurate translation by many. YOU may consider it the closest. You might even be right, but let us be honest. The Catholics, Anglicans, and many Protestant churches, all prefer different bibles for accuracy (if not for beauty) and together they certainly make up the majority of English speaking Christians.
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Unread 05-05-2011, 11:23 PM
 
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No it isn't. It is considered closest by some, and considered the least accurate translation by many. YOU may consider it the closest. You might even be right, but let us be honest. The Catholics, Anglicans, and many Protestant churches, all prefer different bibles for accuracy (if not for beauty) and together they certainly make up the majority of English speaking Christians.
But, but ,but....

...that's the translation that Paul Used>>>>
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Unread 05-05-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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But, but ,but....

...that's the translation that Paul Used>>>>
LOL . . . no it was the Douay-Rheims directly from Peter
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Unread 05-06-2011, 12:07 AM
 
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Before or after you became a Christian, were there any verses, particularly in the NT, you had real difficulty accepting? Or took a long time to really agree with/understand?
The one where Timothy says that all the scriptures are devinely inspired. I was wondering whether he knew how much out of context Constantine and King James and the rest of the idol scripture veneraters were going to take that verse, and what other books were going to be piled up on top of his as "devinely inspired".
When Jesus asks God why he has been forsaken, but then I learned that Psalm asked the same thing, so he could have been quoting in the madness caused by heat exastion.
The one where Jesus appeared to Paul, I was wonder why he would do such a horrible and ghastly thing and how Paul was able to tell it wasn't a demon tricking him.
The one where jesus said that you could only get to God through him, I found that to be imperfect and unlikely, and probably taken out of context by modern Paulite Christians.
There was plenty more... I found Gulliver's Travels easier to accept especially when taken litterally...since they are at least reasonable.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 03:29 AM
 
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The Authorized King James Version (not new due to translational discrepancies) is considered the closest to the original scripts. It's not perfect but the errors are more well known.
The King James Version is considered one of the worst translations because it was based on later manuscripts rather than earlier ones which are thought to be closer to the original writing.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Be interesting to hear of any specific verses, if you have any.
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