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Old 06-12-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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Is the stupidity of man forever? I hope not.
It certainly can seem so, Heartsong.
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Old 06-12-2011, 10:37 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Is salvation forever?

That would make sense ... wouldn't it. People have no problem when Jesus says:

Matthew 25:46
..... but the righteous to eternal life.

they go



but people completely lose it when Jesus says:

Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment......."

they go :mad :

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Old 06-13-2011, 12:09 AM
 
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Is the stupidity of man forever? I hope not.
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It certainly can seem so, Heartsong.
It's become tautology; stupefied and frivolous from a lack of maturity.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's become tautology; stupefied and frivolous from a lack of maturity.
For some, a mantra of sorts. Like the pounding of a podium with clenched fist.

Sigh...

Heartsong
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Post Here is a link that I found helpful on this subject.

Here is a link that I found helpful on this subject.

Etymology of the Word "Damn"
Etymology of the Word Damn
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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That would make sense ... wouldn't it. People have no problem when Jesus says:

Matthew 25:46
..... but the righteous to eternal life.

they go



but people completely lose it when Jesus says:

Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment......."

they go :mad :
I read a theologian who suggested that the reason one can be temporary and the other eternal is because when the saved are incorporated into the eternalness of God, then a temporary state becomes an eternal one only through becoming part of God, which the unsaved naturally are not---hence the use of the same word (aion) meaning two durations. Wish I'd saved the reference.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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otherwise Jesus would have said something like

Well, if speculation is now truth, then yes you are correct.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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"Did God really say..." Satan has been using it since the beginning and he sticks with it because it works.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Just a note on how language works:
That is a big fish in a big ocean.

Is the fish the same size as the ocean because the same word 'big' was used?
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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"Did God really say..." Satan has been using it since the beginning and he sticks with it because it works.
Did God really say that He will have all men to be saved?
No, that is just a desire, and God can't achieve what He desires.



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