Do You Have To Be A Christian To Be A Good Person ? (punishment, doctrine)

[tonytonytony]

Muslims give money to charities like the United Negro College Fund.

They fast and pray.

Unbelievers in the world will give you the shirt off their back if they like you.

Some will even forgive you and turn the other cheek too.

Some go through tribulation very Godly and don't complain.

Some are very patient.

Some will do CPR on you for free if you pass out.

Some will give you a free push out the street if your car stop on you.

Some will give you birthday cakes and greeting cards.

Some will die for you if they like you a lot.

Some are tycoons and well liked people.

Some are great leaders and spouses.

Some are fine leaders and employees.

Some don't even cuss or swear.

Some don't even get drunk or high on drugs---3 John 2.

Some don't go to the bars and casinos---1 Peter 4:1-4 and 1 Timothy 6.

Some hardly worry or get afraid.

Just don't mess with all the bible----John 3:5.

Just don't mess with all the bible---1 Peter 3:3.

Just don't mess with all the bible---Hebrews 4.

Just don't mess with all the bible----1 Timothy 6.

Just don't mess with all the bible----1 Timothy 2:9-14.

Especially Matthew 5:18-20 NOW------Romans 3:1-4.

Especially John 8:31 NOW-------Titus 3:10.

Especially 2 Timothy 3:16 NOW----2 Cor. 4:3.

Don't tell them their wisdom is a filthy rag----Isaiah 64:6.

Otherwise you'll know an unbeliever----1 Thess. 5:12.

Don't tell them church is for believers only----Amos 3:3 and Matthew 7:6 .

Otherwise they'll get in the flesh and call you a people
hater----John 17:9 and Romans 8:9 and Jeremiah 10:23.

Don't tell them Christians can't be a 10% bible mocker--Matt. 5:18-20.

Yet they may be a great parent in vain----John 8:31.

Don't tell them women not church preachers----1 Cor. 14:34-35.

They'll be the first to call you a gender legalist insane---Rev. 12:9-10.

Christians simply looking for each other---Matthew 5:6.

They not trying to win everybody else---John 17:9.

They calling this church only----Amos 3:3 and Psalms 133:1.

1 on 1 with God religion is NOT their church religion---John 17:21.

Unity with people is THEIR church religion----Amos 3:3 and Psalms 133:1.

BIBLE religion is THEIR Relationship religion----John 8:31.

No continuing in God with the BIBLE enough then no Father to Son relationship---John 8:31.

Tell whatever big shot this if they can handle God----1 John 2:27.

No minor law in the new law can be mocked or wrote off as irrelevant to a relationship with Jesus Christ----Matthew 5:18-20 and 1 Peter 3:3.

No animal offering can be compared with jewelry teaching if we talk about dead works today---Romans 3:1-4.

No circumcision can be compared with water baptism if we talk about dead works today----Romans 3:1-4 and John 3:5.

No usual high priest can be compared with the Sabbath teaching if we talk about dead works today---Romans 3:1-4 and Hebrews 4.

No numerous ordinances of the law by Moses can be compared to doctrine on divorce and remarriage if we talk about dead works
today---Romans 3:1-4 and Mark 10:11-12.

All the bible proves good people probably aren't Christians.

Just a rare minority of good people that are Christians--John 8:31.

Stating facts is not condemning people----John 8:44.

The devil is what he is-----John 8:44.

The believer is what he is-----John 8:31.

The unbeliever is what he is----2 Cor. 4:3.

The unbeliever is what he is----Titus 3:10.

The unbeliever is what he is---Matthew 7:6.

Religious fakes are what they are----Matthew 5:18-20.

They simply are what they are----Matthew 7:21-23.

Yet they may have an honor roll student at home---Romans 3:1-4.

While the 10 commandments is what Christians live out so is
1 Peter 3:3 if they going to heaven----John 8:31.

While blood boasting is what Christians live out so is
Romans 6:1 today-----John 8:31.

While the 2 greatest commandments is what Christians live out so is
Matthew 5:18-20 today-----John 8:31.

While sin failure confession is what Christians live out so is
Matthew 4:4 today-----John 5:39.

Christians aren't ever perfect but their PERFECTIONIST in God with all the bible they can------John 8:31 and Romans 3:1-4.

They don't buy the lie that this is dead works voiding out the cross
today----Romans 3:1-4 and John 8:31 and Romans 6:1.

They buy the truth that grace is paid for on the cross but not totally free with no works in Christ to do enough---Ephesians 2:9-10 and
1 Timothy 6 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

3 Times we have Paul talking about a "works" doctrine in Jesus
Christ to be saved----Romans 3:1-4.

Paul put balance on this with Ephesians 2:8 where this kind of "works" is talking about stuff like animal offerings, etc. not stuff like John 3:5 and
Hebrews 4.

Christians are not bought out of doing works to be blood boasting Christians only------Romans 3:1-4 and Romans 6:1.

Christians are not bought out of doing works to be 10 commandment
Christians only----Romans 3:1-4 and Matthew 5:18-20 and
1 Peter 3:3.

Christians are not bought out of doing works to be sin failure confession Christians only----Romans 3:1-4 and Matthew 5:18-20 and
Mark 10:11-12.

Christians are not blood atoned from doing works to be the 2 greatest commandment Christians only-----Romans 3:1-4 and Matthew 5:18-20
and 1 Peter 4:1-4.

All the bible makes you a Christian not just being a good person
today---Romans 3:1-4 and John 8:31 and Matthew 5:18-20 and
1 Timothy 6 and Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23.

All the bible makes you a Christian not just faith in what you want
or confess----Romans 12:3 and Romans 3:1-4 and John 8:31 and
Matthew 5:18-20 and Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23 and
Psalms 119 and Luke 3:14 and James 5:20 and John 17:9.

[sun queen]

I don't think Christianity is a prerequisite to being a good person, but good does not guarantee salvation. Salvation is a free gift. It cannot be earned. However, a person must receive it.

[tonytonytony]

Whether you use the "accept" or "receive" you got to live out all the bible as a bible perfectionist in Christ if your saved----John 8:31.

Cause you never perfect doesn't mean John 3:5 is voiding out the cross with grace-----Romans 3:1-4.

Cause you never perfect doesn't mean Hebrews 4 is voiding out the cross with grace-----John 5:39.

Cause you never perfect doesn't mean you get in heaven with blood boasting only----John 8:31 and Matthew 5:18-20.

Cause you never perfect doesn't mean you get in heaven with failure confession only without the cross---John 5:39 and Matthew 4:4 and
1 John 1:9 and John 8:31.

Perfectionist for Christ are never perfect but they living out John 8:31 the best they can.

Perfectionist for Christ are never perfect but they living out Matthew 4:4 the best they can.

Perfectionist for Christ are never perfect but they living out John 5:39 the best they can.

Perfectionist for Christ are never perfect but they living out Luke 4:4 the best they can.

Perfectionist for Christ are never perfect but they living out Matt. 5:18-20 the best they can.

Grace is paid for but not free------Romans 6:1.

Atonement not free we just not cruficied or stoned for our offenses today.

Jesus took the physical punishment for our offenses but repentance is what you need to benefit from the atonement made for you.

Actually offenses can get us chastised now by God directly or God using man to do so.

How severe God don't say but at least repentance can do made while opportunity is here to escape the lake of fire or everlasting punishment.

Silly for people to let water baptism take them to the lake of fire forever when they can get into a pool of water with a preacher baptising them right now---Mark 16:16 and John 3:5.

They rather admit giving up 3 beers is their solution to repent only
today-----Matthew 5:18-20.

Sin is sin whether it's 3 beers or not getting baptised.

Sin is sin whether it's racist remarks or being a women preacher in church.

Sin is sin whether it's unforgiveness or putting jewelry on.

Sin is sin whether it's passing judgment or being a man with long hair.

Sin is sin whether it's stealing or being uncontent with your work wages.

Sin is sin whether it's arrogance or saying your wisdom is not a filthy rag.

Originally Posted by sun queen

I don't think Christianity is a prerequisite to being a good person, but good does not guarantee salvation. Salvation is a free gift. It cannot be earned. However, a person must receive it.

[ceilinglamp]

No

[Mightyqueen801]

No. I know a lot of good people who aren't Christians. This should be pretty obvious just by looking around at people you know, unless the only people you know are Christians, which would be kind of weird.

[plain and simple]

I don't see the sincerity the original post about what it takes to be a "good person." What I read is a thinly veiled attack of Christianity by someone who read the Bible, but not as a believer. Instead, as someone searching for what they believe to be "ammunition" to use against the faith. There is no contextual understanding of the scriptures used, either.

It would be nice if the author of the post admitted this. Isn't that what a "good person" would do instead of attack in such a cowardly way as to disguise it in "good person" post?

[Theophane]

Do You Have To Be A Christian To Be A Good Person ?

If you are a good person you will be a good Christian, but not all Christians have that natural goodness shining through. Good people can go bad; bad people can become good. The disciples of Jesus were real human beings with some significant flaws. Jesus may have been able to find saintlier fellows without blemish of character but instead He chose the Twelve we know today.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by plain and simple

I don't see the sincerity the original post about what it takes to be a "good person." What I read is a thinly veiled attack of Christianity by someone who read the Bible, but not as a believer. Instead, as someone searching for what they believe to be "ammunition" to use against the faith. There is no contextual understanding of the scriptures used, either.

It would be nice if the author of the post admitted this. Isn't that what a "good person" would do instead of attack in such a cowardly way as to disguise it in "good person" post?

It may help you to understand the OP if you realize that the original poster . . . Tony 3X . . . is a literal Bible believing fundamentalist. Just saying.

[Phazelwood]

The bible does not save you.

[CantWait2Leave]

No one is good except God alone. Luke 18:19