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Old 06-22-2011, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Hot-Houston Texas
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Hebrews 9: 22 tells us there can no forgiveness of sin with the shedding of blood. This is not the a bloodthirsty God as some people may think. There is no greater symbol of life than blood, it keeps us alive, Jesus shed His blood, gave His life for our sins so that we wouldn't have to experience spiritual death, eternal separation from Him. Jesus is the source of life not death. He gave His own life to pay our penalty for us so that we might live. Jesus rose from the grave and proclaimed victory over sin and death.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:02 PM
 
Location: RI
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Because the life is in the blood. Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.God demonstrated His love towards us,while we were still sinners Christ died for us.
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:45 PM
 
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There didn't have to be...it was the evilness in men (men who didn't like his message) that caused the crucifixion of Jesus and nothing more.

God does not require human sacrifice...EVER!!!!
Amen!
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:02 AM
 
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ok Mystic I am going to ask a question and I am not trying to argue.. But I see 2 scenarios here.

1. Jesus comes and does not die by way of the cross because the sacrifice is not needed.
2. Jesus came and died and it was necessary in order for all sins to be forgiven.

On the one hand I hear people say it was necessary, the lamb of G-d. But then blame the romans for crucifying him.
Please explain this to me.
The ancient ignorance maintained that God needed blood sacrifices to appease Him . . . a savage and absurd concept that incomprehensibly has been retained for over 2000+ years now. Jesus came to redeem the promise God made to send a teacher to reveal the truth about God and connect our species with God in eternal life. He fulfilled what was necessary to validate His status and spread His message of God's love for us all to an unwilling and barbaric peoples . . . whose religious leaders wanted no part of His message and or His claims to represent God. He knew full well what that would mean during that barbarous era and He was willing to endure it to provide an UNAMBIGUOUS example of God's TRUE NATURE.

The self-control necessary to endure it and still love His tormentors and killers revealed His Perfection (perfect resonance with God's consciousness in His human consciousness). Upon His death . . . He was reborn as Spirit (Holy Spirit) in the collective Human consciousness investing us ALL with access to His Holy Spirit within our consciousness. The same result COULD have been achieved if Jesus had lived a long and fruitful life and then died. Unfortunately, that was not to be in that barbarous era . . . but God did not require any of it . . . our ancestors did.
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:07 AM
 
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is there some scientific reason for it,perhaps? I've always wondered that...
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Old 06-23-2011, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The ancient ignorance maintained that God needed blood sacrifices to appease Him . . . a savage and absurd concept that incomprehensibly has been retained for over 2000+ years now. Jesus came to redeem the promise God made to send a teacher to reveal the truth about God and connect our species with God in eternal life. He fulfilled what was necessary to validate His status and spread His message of God's love for us all to an unwilling and barbaric peoples . . . whose religious leaders wanted no part of His message and or His claims to represent God. He knew full well what that would mean during that barbarous era and He was willing to endure it to provide an UNAMBIGUOUS example of God's TRUE NATURE.

The self-control necessary to endure it and still love His tormentors and killers revealed His Perfection (perfect resonance with God's consciousness in His human consciousness). Upon His death . . . He was reborn as Spirit (Holy Spirit) in the collective Human consciousness investing us ALL with access to His Holy Spirit within our consciousness. The same result COULD have been achieved if Jesus had lived a long and fruitful life and then died. Unfortunately, that was not to be in that barbarous era . . . but God did not require any of it . . . our ancestors did.

No, He was resurrected physically. What you're teaching is un-scriptural.
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Old 06-23-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I ask this question because this was an extremely painful way for God's Son Jesus to die by way of the cross. He could have have sent His Son to proclaim He was the Messiah with fancy garb and angel's at his beckoning call whenever perilous situations arose but He did not.


So why did there have to be the shedding of blood for our salvation?
Because a sacrifice was necessary.
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Old 06-23-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Amen!
God required the death of His only begotten son.

John 3:16
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Old 06-23-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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is there some scientific reason for it,perhaps? I've always wondered that...
Science had nothing to do with the why. The how, on the other hand, science can explain with ease.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Hebrews 9: 22 tells us there can no forgiveness of sin with the shedding of blood. This is not the a bloodthirsty God as some people may think. There is no greater symbol of life than blood, it keeps us alive, Jesus shed His blood, gave His life for our sins so that we wouldn't have to experience spiritual death, eternal separation from Him. Jesus is the source of life not death. He gave His own life to pay our penalty for us so that we might live. Jesus rose from the grave and proclaimed victory over sin and death.
Amen. Jesus' blood washes away our sins and we are white as snow! This is exactly why He came...to die for us because of His great love for us! Without His death, we could never be forgiven of our sin. His resurrection proved that everything He said is true!
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