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And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
The word in the greek is the feminine noun paliggenesia:
) new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration
a) hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God, a radical change of mind for the better. The word often used to denote the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as a renewal or restoration of life after death
Its made up of two greek words palin which means:
anew, again
a) renewal or repetition of the action
b) again, anew
And the word genesis which means:
source, origin
a) a book of one's lineage, i.e. in which his ancestry or progeny are enumerated
2) used of birth, nativity
3) of that which follows origin, viz. existence, life
And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
9Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
I could multiply scriptures, but the point is to show that in the sense of restoration of life after death, Christ experienced a regeneration.
I believe this is what He meant in Matt 19:28, when He says in the regeneration when the Son of Man shall sit on the Throne of His Glory.
When did this occur if not after His resurrection ? Scripture plainly intimates that after His suffering, His death and resurrection, He shall enter into His Glory. Lk 24:26,20
26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Suffer what things ? see vs 20
20And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
When He rose from the Dead He became Lord of both the dead and the Living Rom 14:9
For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
This word revive means the same as regeneration, a restoration of life after death.
After Christ's humiliating death, and His resurrection, He entered into His Mediatorial Glory as both Lord and Christ Acts 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
He was invested with [from the Father] all power in both Heaven and Earth Matt 28:19
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
If these things were not entering into His Throne of Glory as stated in Matt 19:28, I don't know what is ?
And if so, thats the regeneration He spake of.
Now one more thing about the Matt 19:28, in the original there is no punctuation, that is the translators supply them as they deem it best to their Judgment. In light of that, there should have been a period after the words followed me instead of the comma.
28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me. In the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Jesus was specifically telling His Disciples, the ones who followed Him, the Twelve, that they would be Co Rulers with Him in the Spread of His Gospel Kingdom throughout the Earth. Perhaps what Jesus had in mind was this what He spake unto them earlier in Matt 16:17-19
17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
This I believe is a direct fulfillment of Isa 32:1
1Behold, a king[Jesus Christ] shall reign in righteousness, and princes[The Twelve] shall rule in judgment.
Now the main point hitherto is that Jesus Christ resurrection from the dead, is a regeneration and entering into His Glory !
I believe we are made in the image of God ,that we were made to create as God has created , yet all who have been born in sin have lost fellowship with God. We must be born again to have fellowship with God.
Fallen man in that state is influenced by satan because he has lost that fellowship with God. They are tossed about with no direction or no solid foundation. One who does not have the Holy Spirit cannot see into that realm of which satan can direct their paths without them knowing it.
Being born again , is now being given the guide , the Spirit of the Holy God endwelt in them to show them this new preception of truth to which they were once blind and unknowing.
A newness of clarity of who God is and knowing the fullness of his presence in their lives to direct their paths.you MUST be born again to understand what the Word of God is saying.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
When Jesus told Nicodemus that except a man be born again he cannot see [perceive] the Kingdom of God as per vs 3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
In essence, what Jesus meant, except ye are of that seed in Me, by being Chosen in Him before the foundation of the World [Eph 1:4] ye cannot see or understand the Kingdom of God, which is to include it's Gospel, The Gospel of the Kingdom or of the Kingdom of God. Matt 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mark 1:14
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Which are also the Kingdom Mysteries Luke 8:10
And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Now, even though Jesus was giving a condition " except ye be born again ", yet He was not giving a imperative or duty for one to perform to become born again; because there is nothing a person can do to be born; even if it was for us to go back into our mothers womb, [ which its not] how could we accomplish that ? Could we make ourselves fetuses again ? Would that be in our ability ?
But nevertheless, Christ meant what He said in stating that 'Ye must be born Again " !
I do not know why they translate it "again" when it actually meana "from above"...
I think I've said this before, but it bears repeating.
The Bible says we are all born into sin and rebellion. Our hearts are reservoirs of evil. Our basic nature is to do wrong, not good. We are condemned from the outset, destined for eternal separation from God, unless we repent of our evil nature and turn to Christ for His forgiveness, for which God will deem us righteous enough to enter His presence. Salvation means being saved and it's ourselves we need to be saved from.
Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
The best that we could possibly do is like filthy rags in the sight of God.
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
We can never save ourselves because we're incapable of it.
But, most people, especially in this country, have a hard time believing that because they've never met evil face to face, never been in situations where their own evil nature comes to the fore. We live here in a cocoon of safety and plenty, of wealth and ease. We can live our entire lives secure in the knowledge that tomorrow won't be much different from today, that our basic human goodness will survive, will meet any challenge. Never tested, never confronted by the awful, dreadful things human beings can do to each other, we continue feeling justified in believing we're good, and so are most other people. As a consequence of that, we have a difficult time accepting that we need to be "saved" from anything. All we really need to do is try a little harder, make a few tweaks to an already nearly perfect soul, and we're there.
But, the reality is far different from that and only a few of us are unlucky enough, or blessed enough, to have seen it. People who lived through the Balkans War of the 1990's, or the Holocaust or the partition of India or Afghanistan and Pakistan today have few doubts about the evil lurking in men's hearts. They live it, they see it, they experience it every day. The memories of evil crowd their dreams. I've seen it too. I've felt it in my own heart and it keeps me awake at night.
Most of us have not. When we do see evil people in this country, which we do every day, we can casually dismiss it as, "Oh, that's just him." Remember New Orleans after Katrina? Remember what those people did when civilization collapsed in a day? Remember how we said, "They're not worth saving. I would NEVER do that!"
The truth is that, yes, you would. We are no different from them, no different from those "good" people who justified their jobs in the Nazi death camps, no different from the soldiers of Pol Pot or Idi Amin. We are capable of the most heinous evil, the most dreadful things you can imagine, but we don't want to believe that because we have the luxury of thinking we're "better" than those others who revealed their evil nature in those circumstances. That's not in me! Evil belongs to someone else!
In a way, I'm thankful that y'all have never been in places and situations like that, places where you're allowed, and even encouraged, to give free rein to your basic selves. That's a gift from God which you should not take lightly because what now is can change overnight and drop you into places where there are no restrictions, no laws, no courts, nothing to keep you "good."
But, it's also sad because you may never truly understand just how desperately you need the salvation offered by Jesus Christ. Being basically "good," you may have a hard time accepting that God doesn't see you as you see yourself; He sees what's in your evil heart, that evil heart you've never plumbed, never confronted, which you can deny exists because you've never met your evil self. That's a tragedy if it leads to your standing before the Living God in all your evil nakedness.
How I wish I could tell you of the things I've seen and done which proves, beyond a doubt, that we are NOT good people at our core, that each of us are bottomless, black pits of desperate evil! Maybe then you'd see, maybe then you'd understand that you and I and everyone else are just alike in that regard, it needs only the right circumstances to bring it out!
Well said. It is a rare thing for me to read something in this forum worth repping, and it appears the last time I repped anyone it was you! Not allowed to again, so consider this your point
Now I have previously shown how the word regeneration can and does mean a renewing, a reviving, a restoring to Life after death, and that Christ's rising from the dead was a regeneration, whereby afterwards He entered into His Glory.
Again, the word regeneration is composed of two greek words, one being :
the word genesis which means: genesis
source, origin
a) a book of one's lineage, i.e. in which his ancestry or progeny are enumerated
2) used of birth, nativity
Notice, its a birth.
Now how many scriptures are there that indicates Jesus Christ being a birth or begotten ?
Acts 13:33
God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
The word begotten here is the greek word gennaō and means:
to be born
b) to be begotten
1) of women giving birth to children
The raising up again and the begotten thee are analogous.
Col 1:18
18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
The word for firstborn here in describing the resurrection of Christ, is the word tiktō and means:
to bring forth, bear, produce (fruit from the seed)
a) of a woman giving birth
Rev 1:5
5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
So, it can be biblically established that Christ Resurrection from the dead was a Birth or a Generation.
Now, with that mind, He was the Federal Head of a seed that was in Him, and when He rose from the dead, His seed rose to, that is His regeneration from the dead, was also there regeneration from the dead, for He rose not as a private individual, but as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
This is what paul means also in Eph 2:6, that we were raised up together with Christ. Eph 2:6
6And hath raised us up together,[with Christ] and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
This is the regeneration of the Church, collectively, with their Head.
It is by this regeneration, the elect, who were in Christ when He arose, receive their New Birth.
1 Pet 1:3
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Now notice this word begotten us again here, its the same word used in Acts 13:33, and peter uses the plural pronoun us, meaning He and all those who rose up with Christ from the dead.
The NIV translates 1 Pet 1:3 as this:
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
ESV Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
GWT Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! God has given us a new birth because of his great mercy. We have been born into a new life that has a confidence which is alive because Jesus Christ has come back to life
And so, this is the regeneration of the Church, collectively with Christ's resurrection from the dead, and this sets the stage for each member of that seed in Christ, to be born again individually and experimentally.. This is why they are said to be born from above where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Cp Jn 3:3
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again[from above], he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Col 3:1
1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
To be born again is to be born of that regenerated seed of Christ, where He sitteth on the right hand of God with all of His seed with Him.
Being born-again to so many means saying some sinners prayer and accepting Christ in your heart, to of course ultimately avoid 'hell'.
Seeing the Kingdom of God has to do with eyes--Being able to understand the mysteries, having spiritual eyes to see it (comprehend it) and living it in the 'here and now' and understanding that it is 'within you'-- For this, yes you must be Born Again.
So many continue to make the Kingdom of God some far away place in the sky and none can 'see it'
(go there) unless they accept the Lord as they have defined it.
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5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Now again, the view I have been sharing is making a distinction between regeneration and the new birth or being born again or born from above.
Regeneration is collectively having to do with all the members of Christ seed, that He is the Head of, The Church, and regeneration occurred when they in Him, were raised up together from the Dead. Eph 2:6 and Isa 26:19.
As Jesus was begotten from the dead Rev 1:5, so where they, His death to the Law was their death also. Rom 7:4a
Now, what occurred when Christ died for His seed ? A washing took place. Rev 1:5
5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
You see that ? Having Loved us and washed us, this is collectively all at once John is speaking of. This washing took place with Christ blood.
I believe this is the same washing of Titus 3:5, the washing of regeneration. The word for washing here is the greek word loutron and means:
bathing, bath, the act of bathing
And it's from the root word louō which means:
to bathe, wash
And is the same word used in Rev 1:5 for wash.
Loutron the word in Titus 3:5 is also used for the washing described in Eph 5:26
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Notice also that the word washing of water by the word. Notice how the word is said to be washing, so this is not water baptism, but its the water of the Word.
The word water is the same word used in Jn 3:5 and its usage there is primarily in the same subject manner as here.
Also, it is stated, that after Christ resurrection, that before sitting down at the right hand of the Father, He had what ? Why, He had purified us from our sins. Heb 1:3
3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
This again is a corporate or collective purging of all the seed He represented. The word purge is the word katharismos and means:
cleansing, purification, a ritual purgation or washing
a) of the washing of the Jews before and after their meals
b) of levitical purification of women after childbirth
c) a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ
So again, a washing,a cleansing is being emphasized, and because its associated with the removal of guilt, blood must have been involved and redemption.
So, this is regeneration, and its corporate, and has to do with the cleansing and washing from sin of all the elect seed in Christ, and this sets the stage for the New Birth which I will deal with next.
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
After and following and connected with the Regeneration [The washing by the blood of Christ] comes the renewing of the Holy Ghost, or the New Birth. The New Birth of the individual is based on the washing of regeneration or simply put, Christ Blood, they having been purged [legally] from the guilt of their sins that had been laid upon Christ. Let's look again at this purging Heb 1:3
3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our[collectively] sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
This word purged is the greek word katharismos and means:
cleansing, purification, a ritual purgation or washing
a) of the washing of the Jews before and after their meals
b) of levitical purification of women after childbirth
c) a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ
Notice that it states, its a expiatory sacrifice. What does that mean ? It means to make amends, to atone, so its related to the atonement.
The word atonement is used throughout the OT with that Ideal
Its the word kaphar and it is translated many times as purge:
Isa 6:7
7And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
So here its related to having sin taken away !
Ps 79:9
9Help us, O God of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.
So all those whose sins were purged by the blood of Christ, shall be renewed by the Holy Ghost, which is the New Birth. The word renewing is the greek word anakainōsis and means:
a renewal, renovation, complete change for the better, Its from a root word which means to make new. To be changed into a new kind of Life.
You see, because the person has been regenerated, has been forgiven of all legal guilt before God, A New Life which corresponds to their Justification by the blood of Christ, is given them, the New Birth. This New Birth is given to all for whom Christ died and rose again for. Remember Paul said of Him, who was delivered for our offences and raised for our Justification Rom 4:25
All these shall be Born Again, born from above where Christ sitteth on the Right Hand of God !
I do not know why they translate it "again" when it actually meana "from above"...
Because "From Above" speaks of something far higher, and for me is the correct translation. I also have no doubt Jesus is also talking about a transformation of how a man thinks when referring to being born from above,rather than what we are fobbed off with the mainstream teaching of "I believe in Jesus so i'm born again".
“You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?
I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?.
While we think carnally we will never understand the things of God. Trying to understand God and who He really is by our carnal tree of knowledge of good and evil understanding,we will be no different from Nicodemus and the rest of the teachers of Israel,who basically had no idea who God really IS.Even the disciples of Jesus failed to see that it was God they were beholding in him, why? because they had been taught by the teachers of Israel(today the teachers of christianity),that God is wrathful,vengeful and always on their case,when infact all that was ever happening to them as a nation was a principle of law of reaping and sowing.
Being born again is more than just words, we are alive and filled with Holy Spirit, this feeling convicts us through our daily lives, it controls us, we know bad from good, the way of the world vs Heavenly aspirations. We are on fire for the Lord in our rebirth, to keep the flame going one needs to stay in the word, stay focused and have a shield of armor for the evil of the world.
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