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View Poll Results: Will Christ fail to accomplish Gods desire to save all people?
Yes 13 23.21%
No 31 55.36%
I don't believe that Jesus is the word of God! 12 21.43%
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So, according to what you believe, if mystic dies believing what he does, then what is his fate?
As I have stated countless times: I will leave the judgment to God.

 
Old 07-15-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: New England
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You are right that denying the truth is not caring, it is lying.

What if the doctor kept saying you have cancer, but you didn't actually have it? What if he kept going on and on, saying you could work through it, take chemotherapy and different drugs, and even though the chemotherapy might kill you, you will have a chance to live a bit longer.... but all the while there was plain proof you didn't even have cancer at all...
Amen Lego


If we only knew how God really see's His creation,rather than looking with judgement and condemnation to what happened to His creation, we would clothe our mind with the same mind(the mind of God) that was in Christ Jesus towards the world that He so loves.

Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

He came to save those who know not what they do,not destroy them.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 12:51 PM
 
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There is hope as long as we live. There is nothing complicated in that statement.

Heb 9 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment
Thankyou for clarifying your statement. And amen to Hebrews 9, but I think we have a different view of what it means...
 
Old 07-15-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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As I have stated countless times: I will leave the judgment to God.

Then there was no point in telling someone they will be judged if you cannot offer anything that says what will happen.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Thankyou for clarifying your statement. And amen to Hebrews 9, but I think we have a different view of what it means...

Yeah, but for Finn to say what it means would cause Finn to say the word hell.

 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Then there was no point in telling someone they will be judged if you cannot offer anything that says what will happen.
Let me try again: I will let God judge people. It is not my job to judge others. Get it? Why are you asking me to judge Mystic? Why don't you judge him yourself?
 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yeah, but for Finn to say what it means would cause Finn to say the word hell.
It doesn't talk about hell, it simply states that we live once, and then face judgement. It says nothing about UR conversion factoreis where dead people are forced into belief.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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It doesn't talk about hell, it simply states that we live once, and then face judgement. It says nothing about UR conversion factoreis where dead people are forced into belief.

Oh, so you do not believe anyone goes to hell, gotcha.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:14 PM
 
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It doesn't talk about hell, it simply states that we live once, and then face judgement. It says nothing about UR conversion factoreis where dead people are forced into belief.
See for someone who complains about being misrepresented, you sure misrepresent other's beliefs alot.
No one said anything about "conversion factories where dead people are forced into belief."

Praise God in His righteous judgment, that will be a glorious day when all will see what righteousness is.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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Oh, so you do not believe anyone goes to hell, gotcha.
Certainly Heb 9:27 says nothing about hell...
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