Will Christ fail to accomplish Gods desire to save all people? (study, world)

[Phazelwood]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

You know.... I don't even know what you are talking about. You are complaining about something and telling me to stay out, and then I just see a lot of you, you, you, you....

Have a nice evening.

Of course you know what I am talking about.

[Rockhead]

Originally Posted by lee9786

Sadly not all come to repentance. Many will be in hell. It's a disturbing reality and is scriptural.

Please do not tell anyone, but the Lord who is the source of the all is the goal of the all.

"God has now revealed to us His mysterious plan regarding Christ, a plan to fulfill His own great pleasure. And this is the plan. At the right time He will bring everything together under the authority of Christ-everything in heaven and on earth. Furthermore, because we are united with Christ we have received an inheritance from God, for He chose us in advance, and He makes all things work out according to His plan."

Everything= ta pavnte= the all

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by pcamps

Finn see below for confirmation of the both ways gospel. Mrs pcamps

If you see a contradiction then you do not understand the core message of Jesus Christ. He succeeded in what he came here to do, which was to offer salvation to everyone, and those who believe in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

[rodgertutt]

"God will have all mankind to be saved."
The Greek word does not translate as "desires" instead of will have.

All mankind will be saved because God through Timothy said so.

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

If you see a contradiction then you do not understand the core message of Jesus Christ. He succeeded in what he came here to do, which was to offer salvation to everyone, and those who believe in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

Absolutely i do see a contradiction, if i'm actually saved by a Savior(what the Savior did) what else is there left for me to do ?.

What you want me to do is believe he becomes a Savior after I do something,and i refuse to do so, because it's a false gospel.

For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

[rodgertutt]

Originally Posted by pcamps

Absolutely i do see a contradiction, if i'm actually saved by a Savior (what the Savior did) what else is there left for me to do ?.

What you want me to do is believe he becomes a Savior after I do something, and i refuse to do so, because it's a false gospel.

For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Any "cooperation" is the result, not the cause, of God's saving grace being effective.
Just ask Saul of Tarsus, or Nebuchadnezzar.

Salvation is 100% by grace, plus nothing.

[legoman]

Originally Posted by rodgertutt

Any "cooperation" is the result, not the cause, of God's saving grace being effective.
Just ask Saul of Tarsus, or Nebuchadnezzar.

Salvation is 100% by grace, plus nothing.

Indeed, this is why Christ will not fail to accomplish Gods desire to save all people.

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by rodgertutt

Any "cooperation" is the result, not the cause, of God's saving grace being effective.
Just ask Saul of Tarsus, or Nebuchadnezzar.

Salvation is 100% by grace, plus nothing.

Amen Rodger.

Men teach that Jesus is knocking on doors and then waits to see if any will answer,and if they don't they are done with,failing to realize and and at the same time show contempt for the long suffering, tolerance and kindness of God,that leads a man to repentance.

Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness,tolerance and patience,not realizing it's God's kindness(not our choice)that leads us to repentance.Romans 2:4

I personally believe any man who thinks he chose Jesus and will not humble himself in the sight of the Lord and confess "all that i have and am is because of Him", is still blind and very much carnally minded in respect to the things of God, and the reason his confession of God's love,grace and mercy is at best limited(if it was there would be no hope for me).

To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.John 3:27

Whatever has been given us, is given to us freely. Matt 10:38

It's because of him that you are in Christ Jesus. 1 Cor 1:31

[legoman]

Originally Posted by Theophane

Trick question!

Christ has already succeeded. The rest is up to us.

Theophane, if Christ has already succeeded, then it is a forgone conclusion. All will be (or are) saved! Good news for all men!

Of course this does not preclude the fact that men can choose to make bad decisions right now. But what it does mean is that eventually all will come to God. Every knee will bow, God will have all men to be saved, all will be made alive, death will be destroyed, and God will then be all in all.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by pcamps

To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.John 3:27

Whatever has been given us, is given to us freely. Matt 10:38

It's because of him that you are in Christ Jesus. 1 Cor 1:31

Yes, this is true. You can't receive more than what is given to you. Was your comment meant to be a counter argument to someone's comment? I don't see the connection to anything that has been said before.