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View Poll Results: Will Christ fail to accomplish Gods desire to save all people?
Yes 13 23.21%
No 31 55.36%
I don't believe that Jesus is the word of God! 12 21.43%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-13-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Which UR member said that?

God will have all men to be saved.
Timothy believed that, and I believe that, and as far as I know all the URs on this board believe that is the word of God.
I can't recall a single one who agreed that the Bible is the word of God. I am not going to list names. You can ask them if you want to know. Or you can search for words like 'old manna' or 'bible worshipper' etc if you want to read their own words. If you like name lists, you can provide one of those URs who have said the Bible is the word of God.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life

 
Old 07-13-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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I can't recall a single one who agreed that the Bible is the word of God. I am not going to list names. You can ask them if you want to know. Or you can search for words like 'old manna' or 'bible worshipper' etc if you want to read their own words.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life
Sooner or later everyone will believe in Jesus because God will have all men to be saved. It's just a matter of time.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Redding, Ca
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Did the Pharisees immediatelly convert when they came face to face with Jesus? Who crucified Jesus if everyone who ever saw Him was converted?

Can you provide some Bible verses saying that people are converted when they expire?
Because God blinded the nation of Israel by His laws, meaning that they were zealious for the law that they could not see passed the law to see Jesus.

You do understand that the blinding of Israel was by God's design?

You recall reading where Jesus stated "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"?

Can you see Jesus fulfilling the letter of the law when prophecy stated that Jesus was not going to be received by His own people?

When I said face to face is because at our death, physical death, our spirits will ascend to Jesus in the air to where we shall bend a knee at Jesus' feet.

Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth


If you can understand the two creations, you will understand how it all works.

Blessings, AJ
 
Old 07-13-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life

Do you like ping-pong?
I do like this statement
God will have all men to be saved.
That is how I know that everyone will sooner or later believe in Jesus.
It's just a matter of time.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life
Perish is the same Greek word as being lost.
Read "shall not be lost"
But Jesus came to seek and to save the lost.
Everyone is in a state of being lost until they are found.
And everyone will be found because God will have all men to be saved.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 06:49 PM
 
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Perish is the same Greek word as being lost.
Read "shall not be lost"
But Jesus came to seek and to save the lost.
Everyone is in a state of being lost until they are found.
And everyone will be found because God will have all men to be saved.

And He is the Good Shepherd who will leave the 99 to find the one that is lost...

99 + 1 = 100

100%
 
Old 07-13-2011, 07:17 PM
 
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And He is the Good Shepherd who will leave the 99 to find the one that is lost...

99 + 1 = 100

100%
Amen sparrow. God is good.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 08:13 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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And He is the Good Shepherd who will leave the 99 to find the one that is lost...

99 + 1 = 100

100%
100% of those who believe while under heaven.
Jesus didn't go seek the lost sheep after the sheep died.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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100% of those who believe while under heaven.
Jesus didn't go seek the lost sheep after the sheep died.
Even so... 100% is 100%
 
Old 07-13-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Even so... 100% is 100%
Read it a little closer ... sheep are only those who believe which is the context.

He didn't seek the "goats" in the story... which there are Matthew 25:33

He didn't seek the "pigs" ..... which there are Matthew 7:6

He didn't seek the "dogs" ..... which there are Revelation 22:15

He didn't seek the "ferocious wolves" ...... which there are Matthew 7:15
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