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One thing that irks me to no end is the media labeled Anders as a "far-right conservative Christian fundamentalist"...
That description fits MILLIONS of Christians, many of whom are members of this forum, and to the best of my knowledge NONE of them are out there shooting innocent kids...
Define Christian: A Christian is a person who believes in, and has a relationship with Jesus Christ...
My goodness, Finn. Are you actually calling me a Christian?
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but this person says he does not believe in Jesus nor have a relationship with Him. He labels himself as Christian because of cultural reasons and because it supports his fantasy crusader/knights templar image.
I get what you're saying, but you're using your definition of "Christian" whereas, Behring appears to be using a different definition entirely. Don't get me wrong. I don't see Behring as a Christian any more than you do. It's just that he does claim to be some sort of a Christian, while denying having faith in Christ.
My goodness, Finn. Are you actually calling me a Christian?
I get what you're saying, but you're using your definition of "Christian" whereas, Behring appears to be using a different definition entirely. Don't get me wrong. I don't see Behring as a Christian any more than you do. It's just that he does claim to be some sort of a Christian, while denying having faith in Christ.
He could claim to be the prince of Austria, but it wouldn't make him one.
He could claim to be the prince of Austria, but it wouldn't make him one.
I understand that, but he does appear to contradict himself. If he'd said, "Yes, I'm a Christian," or "No, I'm not a Christian," then I'd say things would be cleared up.
I understand that, but he does appear to contradict himself. If he'd said, "Yes, I'm a Christian," or "No, I'm not a Christian," then I'd say things would be cleared up.
They are clear enough for me. If you can't see what he is by looking at his fruit, then I don't know what to tell you.
They are clear enough for me. If you can't see what he is by looking at his fruit, then I don't know what to tell you.
You just like to be argumentative, don't you, Finn? I already said, "I don't see Behring as a Christian any more than you do." For somebody who is so astute, you didn't pick up on that? Jeesh!
Because intolerant rhetoric, and ideological extremism, both appeal to the unconscious fears of our primitive ego, I believe all of us are capable of becoming intolerant and judgmental toward those we don’t know….those who are different.
Mr. Breivik is not insane. He is simply an intolerant, ideological extremist whose fear and paranoia crossed the line into violence. Black-and-white thinking is black-and-white thinking. Regardless of where it is found, it always leads to judgmentalism and violence.
One thing that irks me to no end is the media labeled Anders as a "far-right conservative Christian fundamentalist"...
That description fits MILLIONS of Christians, many of whom are members of this forum, and to the best of my knowledge NONE of them are out there shooting innocent kids...
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It frustrates you? Why? He acted exactly like a fundamentalist Christian ... full of hatred and violence, despising those who are not like himself.
His actions are similar to a fundamentalist Muslim terrorist. There isn't much difference in the two.
I find it odd that the corporate media is not calling the man a terrorist. Is that because he is "Christian"???
How many times do you find the term "Christian" in the bible, btw???
It frustrates you? Why? He acted exactly like a fundamentalist Christian ... full of hatred and violence, despising those who are not like himself.
I was wondering when you would come in to say something like "He acted exactly like a fundamentalist Christian ". I knew you would never miss a tragedy like this as an opportunity to smear Christians.
Well, he's saying he's a Christian but not a religious Christian. Obviously he's not a religious Christian, but now that we know he's technically a Christian, where does that information leave us?
I think what he is saying is that he is an Atheist at heart, just like alot of Norse believers used to say before they were converted to Chritianity. "cultural Christian" means that he doesn't believe in Christianity but follows it's rules anyway. I'm sure he lost "true" faith somewhere along the way of being an anti-liberal Nazi Psycho. Alot of Christians struggle with their beliefs. He is definately a type of Christian.
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