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Old 08-13-2011, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Actually, when we read 2Cor 13 and 1John 4, we see that early believers were warning the church of what true antichrist is: not knowing and feeling Jesus Christ within us.

Man is God's temple. Paul tells us this at least 3 times in 2Cor. That isn't just nice rhetoric, either. God in man is the mystery of the Gospel.

And some "Christians" are denying the Lord that bought them, simply because they do not know Him within their hearts (yet).

Blessings in Christ,
Brian
I absolutely AGREE 100% with you Brian. That is the GOOD NEWS!!!!! Sadly, the GOOD NEWS has been so mangled by the precepts, doctrine and dogma of man...that it has turned into BAD NEWS and misleads many by telling them to look outside themselves for something that lives WITHIN THEM.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:34 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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How long will you continue to speak evil of God's holy word? How long will you pervert truth in the service of Satan?

Did you think that it wouldn't be noticed that you deliberately left out the very first words that Jesus said in Matthew 4:4 'IT IS WRITTEN, 'Man shall not live on bread (physical food) alone, but on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God (God's spoken and written word).

Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 8:3 He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your fathers had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the LORD.'


And so the Scriptures put the lie to your statement.

Jesus' words never went against Scripture. Jesus always referred to the Scriptures and gave them the highest authority. He used Scripture against Satan when tempted by the devil in the desert. Jesus said, ''IT IS WRITTEN'.

You deliberately twist and distort the scriptures in your denial of the truth. For example you write: "Man shall not live by bread (scripture) alone, but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth (Spirit) of God."

That statement is a lie from Satan . Every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God is a reference to God's spoken or written word. You have in the past called the Scriptures stale air, and stale manna. Your attitude toward the word of God is known to those who have read your posts.

You say that the Scriptures cannot save you. But 2 Tim 3:14 says the following. 'You however continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them; 15] and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16] All Scripture is God breathed and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17] the the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

The Scriptures speak out against you. You are a false teacher and a deceiver. God will deal with you as such.
Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Ephesians 5:11
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
Amen bro! I agree completely. Darkness is well at work in Christendom today as ever, and we strive to present all men in Christ, as per Colossians 1. Christ in you, the (only) hope of glory.


Blessings,
Brian
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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The book of Ezra does not say that Ezra rewrote the Torah. It is the Apocryphal book of Forth Ezra (14:44-48) which makes that claim. It is not Scripture. It does not belong in the Bible.

Nehemiah 8:1, which is Scripture says 'And all the people gathered as one man at the square which was in front of the Water Gate, and they asked Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses (the five books of Moses) which the LORD had given to Israel.


No, the Old Testament is not anti-christ. That you would impugn the word of God is not unexpected from you.
I didn't realize you didn't like the book of Ezra... Let me try again since Twin Spin declares that impugning the word of God is antichrist....

Why do the people in Nehemiah, if they had the 5 books since Moses, seem surprised at what it said.... Why did they then celebrate festivals they had not celebrated before? Why did they find rules they never heard before in those books they had for generations.... Yet Ezra, the scribe, suddenly appears with these things?

If you can trust a book to be of God why don't you trust men today to be of God, even if they do disagree with you on certain things?

Seems to me you worship the book and not God.... Is worshipping a book antichrist or idolatry or both?
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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God warns about the anti-Christ cult messages that will dwell within Christianity.
The Valley of Slaughter burns within the boundaries of the Religious as they march to the beat of their own
drum, slaying one another; even those who are innocent of their corrupted thinking or belief systems (B.S.)
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:31 PM
 
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Genesis is a compilation of scattered writings (passed down for generations) by Moses. Exodus, Leviticus (Moses' Law) and Numbers are written by him. Deuteronomy was started by Moses, completed by Joshua who took leadership after Moses' death...Moses couldn't have given an account of his own death. AISI

Peace!
Your right! Moses never died....
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:32 PM
 
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Amen bro! I agree completely. Darkness is well at work in Christendom today as ever, and we strive to present all men in Christ, as per Colossians 1. Christ in you, the (only) hope of glory.


Blessings,
Brian
How do you tell if someone has Christ in them?
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Italy
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How do you tell if someone has Christ in them?
Just ask. If a Christian does not acknowledge experiencing Christ within his heart, then you know that he still hasn't experienced regeneration.

If regeneration has occurred, the person will acknowledge that they feel Christ in them, and that, at least to some degree, they are overcoming the flesh, and are experiencing a new joy, peace, kindness, gentleness towards others, love towards God, man, and all things good.

Hope this answers a bit..


Blessings,
Brian
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:24 AM
 
Location: US
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First off..this is a summarization from the the book "Our Great Heritage, vol III"




the Bible speaks of two separate anti-christ's
  1. anti-christ (small "a") ... often associated in general terms connected with their message generally speaking
  2. Anti-christ (capital "A") ... specifically pointing to the person in singular terms
The word "anti" does not limit itself to the understanding of "against", but it also has the meaning of "instead". (this OP is about the small "a")


1 John 4:1-3
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
because many false prophets have gone out into the world....
This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.



There was the Judaizing teachers within the church written about in Galatians
  • taught that salvation was by mixing faith and obedience to the law and mandatory circumcision
Shortly after them was the Gnostics
  • taught that salvation was achieved through a higher degree of knowledge (IMO...the father of what would be called New Age \ mysticism)
The heresies of Irenaeus (died about 200 AD)
  • [created more falsehoods] in his attempt to refute the Gnosticics
The Ariens
  • taught that Jesus was like God but not equal to God
The Nestorians
  • who denied any sharing of attributes between the two natures in the person of Christ
The Monophysites
  • taught that there was only one nature in Christ
The Monotheletes
  • denied Jesus' human nature had a will
The Bogomiles (peaked in the 12th century)
  • taught a mixture of Dualism and Gnosticism
The Cathari and Albigenses
  • deny the reality of Jesus' death
(and from the 14th century till current)


The great mass of anti-Trinitarians and antichristian sects
  • which has produced social gospels and Modernism
Have you studied each one of those religious sects theology to see what has been incorporated into the True Faith of Christ?....
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:44 AM
 
Location: US
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My view:

Anti-Christ = Anti-Love. (in opposition to love. OPPOSITE of love. Resisting love.)

That which is not of a spirt of love, is a spirt of NON-love or "Anti-Christ".


Focus on love.

peace,
sparrow
Now that is stretching the meaning beyond what it actually means...

G500
 
αντίχριστος
antichristos
an-tee'-khris-tos
From G473 and G5547; an opponent of the Messiah: - antichrist.

G473
αντί
anti
an-tee'
A primary particle; opposite, that is, instead or because of (rarely in addition to): - for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.

G5547
Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.

G5548
χρίω
chriō
khree'-o
Probably akin to G5530 through the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, that is, (by implication) to consecrate to an office or religious service: - anoint.

G5530
χράομαι
chraomai
khrah'-om-ahee
Middle voice of a primary verb (perhaps rather from G5495, to handle); to furnish what is needed; (give an oracle, "graze" [touch slightly], light upon, etc.), that is, (by implication) to employ or (by extension) to act towards one in a given manner: - entreat, use. Compare G5531, G5534.


G1136
 
Γώγ
Gōg
gogue
Of Hebrew origin [H1463]; Gog, a symbolic name for some future Antichrist: - Gog.
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