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Old 08-14-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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The appeal to magic and the supernatural to explain the obvious nonsense of dogma is the ultimate refuge of liars abd deceivers. Everything can be "explained" by appealing to God's ability to do ANYTHING. Very reasonable, logical and scholarly . . . NOT!.
God is supernatual and it has nothing to do with magic. I tell you this, as I have told you before. You do not believe in the God Who has revealed Himself in the Bible. The Jesus you believe in is not the Jesus of the Bible. Jesus Christ IS God and you deny this. Those who never understood that Jesus is God aren't even saved. They are simply ministers of Satan - pawns, presenting his cosmic doctrines to a lost and dying world.

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Old 08-14-2011, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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God is supernatual and it has nothing to do with magic. I tell you this, as I have told you before. You do not believe in the God Who has revealed Himself in the Bible. The Jesus you believe in is not the Jesus of the Bible. Jesus Christ IS God and you deny this. Those who never understood that Jesus is God aren't even saved. They are simply ministers of Satan - pawns, presenting his cosmic doctrines to a lost and dying world.


This post exemplifies the very superstitions precepts and doctrines of MAN mystic is referring to in his posts.

The devil can only be in one place at a time? Extraneous, biblically.... It seems there is a doctrine for everything.
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Old 08-14-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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This post exemplifies the very superstitions precepts and doctrines of MAN mystic is referring to in his posts.

The devil can only be in one place at a time? Extraneous, biblically.... It seems there is a doctrine for everything.
The doctrines of the word of God have nothing to do with superstition or the doctrines of Man. It is ironic that people such as yourself like to speak of the doctrines of men, not being able to discern that it you who who have been influenced by the doctrines of men, the cosmic doctrines of Satan, because you have rejected the doctrines of the word of God.

Only God is omnipresent. No creature can be in more than one place at the same time.

But then, you don't even believe in Satan. You don't believe in angels at all. You don't believe in hell, you don't believe in heaven, you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, and you don't believe that the Bible is the word of God. In short, you are in complete rejection of the truth and have embraced a lie.
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Old 08-14-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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The doctrines of the word of God have nothing to do with superstition or the doctrines of Man. It is ironic that people such as yourself like to speak of the doctrines of men, not being able to discern that it you who who have been influenced by the doctrines of men, the cosmic doctrines of Satan, because you have rejected the doctrines of the word of God.

Only God is omnipresent. No creature can be in more than one place at the same time.

But then, you don't even believe in Satan. You don't believe in angels at all. You don't believe in hell, you don't believe in heaven, you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, and you don't believe that the Bible is the word of God. In short, you are in complete rejection of the truth and have embraced a lie.
"Only God is omnipresent" .... Jesus said, "where two or three are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them" (another example of where Jesus claims God only characteristics)

Every anti-christ cult message begins with one these as a platform:
  • Jesus is not God
  • Jesus did not rise physically from the dead
  • God is not triune
  • The Bible is not sufficient for salvation
  • Faith alone is not sufficient for salvation
  • Salvation is made available after physical death
God warns about such people who will creep into the family of believers for they truly live as enemies of the cross.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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The doctrines of the word of God have nothing to do with superstition or the doctrines of Man. It is ironic that people such as yourself like to speak of the doctrines of men, not being able to discern that it you who who have been influenced by the doctrines of men, the cosmic doctrines of Satan, because you have rejected the doctrines of the word of God.

Only God is omnipresent. No creature can be in more than one place at the same time.

But then, you don't even believe in Satan. You don't believe in angels at all. You don't believe in hell, you don't believe in heaven, you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, and you don't believe that the Bible is the word of God. In short, you are in complete rejection of the truth and have embraced a lie.
If any one disagrees with you they are listenng to satan... A mythological being that there is no evidence of. As are, technically speaking, winged angels, fish that swallow humans, talking donkeys, vengeful gods.... Etc.

Your perpetuation of ancient ignorance belies what century you belong to. We have truth and then we have mythology and superstitions...

If your discernment is lacking that is no fault of mine!

Btw- do you also follow the doctrines of the OT or is there an NT doctrine that overrides the OT doctrines?
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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"Only God is omnipresent" .... Jesus said, "where two or three are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them" (another example of where Jesus claims God only characteristics)

Every anti-christ cult message begins with one these as a platform:
  • Jesus is not God
  • Jesus did not rise physically from the dead
  • God is not triune
  • The Bible is not sufficient for salvation
  • Faith alone is not sufficient for salvation
  • Salvation is made available after physical death
God warns about such people who will creep into the family of believers for they truly live as enemies of the cross.
I find it interesting that you have no problem believing other "cults" are "bad" but your cult is not.

Cult-
A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.

I think your cult is by far one of the most depressing.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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No, he does not. Satan is a created being and can only be in one place at a time. The old sin nature is not Satan. Satan has a vast army of fallen angels who followed him in his rebellion against God. And these fallen angels keep tabs on believers in order to collect information on them to take to Satan who from time to time takes that information and goes to heaven with it to accuse believers before God. Yes, that's right. Satan still has access to heaven. He will not be permanently expelled from heaven until the middle of the tribulation (Rev 12:7-17).
Since you deem yourself knowledgeable about Satan . . . what is the thinking? What does Satan get from all this evildoing and fruitless endeavor . . . since He loses and is eternally punished for it eventually? Where is the payoff? Why would he be such a patsy? Only a fool would pursue such a losing proposition.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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"Only God is omnipresent" .... Jesus said, "where two or three are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them" (another example of where Jesus claims God only characteristics)

Every anti-christ cult message begins with one these as a platform:
  • Jesus is not God
  • Jesus did not rise physically from the dead
  • God is not triune
  • The Bible is not sufficient for salvation
  • Faith alone is not sufficient for salvation
  • Salvation is made available after physical death
God warns about such people who will creep into the family of believers for they truly live as enemies of the cross.
Yup, the anti-christ is very prevalent in this forum. As time is coming to an end and satan is using anyone he can in trying to destroy the message of God......especially in this thread because it points him out and the ways of his strategy !!

Just like you, Twin, Mike,..... Paul also railed against some vile people who crept into the early church and began to teach other things, other doctrines, other gospels. It was a problem right from the beginning, and it has continued to be a problem down to this very day!
We know some of the early heresies of the first century church. Among the leading heresies was Gnosticism, from "gnosis" (knowledge). These liars taught a special kind of "inside knowledge" just like we read here in this thread and forum.....
Also, Twin and Mike, through you both and a few other's.... "God warns about such people who will creep into the family of believers for they truly live as enemies of the cross."........ Many of the epistles are written as a direct defense of..... "the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." (Jude 3) against the onslaught of Gnosticism and other heresies.

Paul wasn't pulling any punches when he railed against these enemies of the truth, whether we read about it in Romans or any of his other epistles. Paul was very concerned about the danger these snakes could do to the people of God. He rightly called them depraved, debased, and ultimately, rejected.... amen !

So we see that it is the reprobate mind in this thread, they can't stand to hear God's truth, it's like their hearing someone running their finger nails across a chalk board to their ears...... The reaction is to try vehemently to twist, mangle, and suppress the truth with their wickedness.... against anyone who stands in God's truth !!

They'll fight all the way to their destruction for their is no fear of God in their hearts (reverence) and in their weeping and gnashing their teeth toward God, they still, will spit in the face of God, accusing God, yet, they will be without excuse, because, although they once knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened..... and in their pride holding their banners high professing to be wise, yet, they were shown they had became fools, in changing the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — themselves !!!

Yup, their deceiving hearts awaits them in judgment..... amen !!
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:08 PM
 
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God is love.
Love conquers all.
Nothing "anti-christ" about that message.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:08 PM
 
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Since you deem yourself knowledgeable about Satan . . . what is the thinking? What does Satan get from all this evildoing and fruitless endeavor . . . since He loses and is eternally punished for it eventually? Where is the payoff? Why would he be such a patsy? Only a fool would pursue such a losing proposition.
Satan is in a no-win situation. But he is determined to present his case before God, in an attempt to prove to God that God was unjust in sentencing him and the angels who rebelled with him to the lake of fire. He is fighting to the end. Is is always Satan's intention to prove to God that he can control this world which he at the present time rules over. Satan is still attempting to prove to God that he can rule better than God. And God is giving him every chance within limits, to prove that he can. Satan is indeed a fool as are those who have fallen for his cosmic doctrines.

This all has to do with the angelic conflict. Here is a good study on the angelic conflict...

The Angelic Conflict; the Spiritual Warfare
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