God warns about the anti-christ cult messages that will dwell within Christianity (trinity, POV)

[Cyber Munchkin]

Originally Posted by modeerf

What is the shield of Faith?

Is the Bible the only source of the Word of God?

Are you a child of God ???
Has your sins been forgiven through Jesus Christ and He now stands as your Lord God and Savior ??

If so, then you will know the answers to the questions, if not, my suggestion is to go to God and ask Him to reveal to you the questions you hold in your heart..... I guarantee He will answer you

Have a nice day....

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by pcamps

LMAO

Heartsong's words are worth repeating again.

"Who would have believed that Christians would go about trying every way in their strength to influence others to doubt the love and mercy of God - his highest, most holy virtues".

So, you invent a new religion and if someone doesn't believe you, you accuse them of trying to influence others to doubt the love of God?

That is some serious twist and spin you apply there.

No one is doubting anything except the false doctrine of automatic salvation.

If I told you that God loves us to much that He will put a million dollars into our bank accounts, and if you said it is not true, then would it be honest of me to accuse you of doubting God's love? I ask, because that is exactly what you and your UR friends are doing right now.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Cyber Munchkin

Brethren.... "When God warns His people about the anti-christ cult messages that will dwell within Christianity"....
The Father tells us that we are too......
Be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

As we so know....
our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.......
For those who are flesh and blood, we know they have been deceive by the father of this world, carrying and proclaiming the anti-christ message..... only to kill, steal, and destroy God's will for His people......

Then why on earth are you lambasting UR's who do none of those things and are proponents ENTIRELY of "Love of God and each other?" There is absolutely NOTHING anti-Christ in our message. All the darkness, evil, wickedness, killing and destroying is in the beliefs you defend, Cyber. Love has no part in any of it. Who exactly is deceived?

So God tells us we are too....
...... Take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm......
Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; in addition to all,......

....... taking up the shield of FAITH with which you will be able to
EXTINGUISH ALL THE FLAMING ARROWS OF THE EVIL ONE......

AND, against those who have come along side the evil one, Satan, with the anti-christ message !!!

The Gospel of peace is about God's love for us ALL. It is the Christ message . . . NOT anti-Christ.

Brethren, God tells us we are too.... take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the WORD OF GOD
..... HALLELUJAH !!!
Brethren KEEP....
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—
AMEN !!!

The Word of God is Christ and the Spirit is His Holy Spirit within that abides with us. We UR's are completely in line with Christ's commands to "love God and each other," the guidance of His Holy Spirit against all wickedness and evil, and His Gospel of God's love for us ALL. As usual . . . you are defending against some unidentified anti-Christ . . . perhaps your own beliefs which are far more in line with your rant.

[Cyber Munchkin]

"God warns about the anti-christ cult messages that will dwell within Christianity"......

It is written.....

2 Peter 2
The Rise of False Prophets
1. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
3. and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.


4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
5. and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6. and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;
7. and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men
8. (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),
9. then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,
10. and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority.


Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,
11. whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.
12. But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,
13. suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you,
14. having eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children;
15. forsaking the right way, they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16. but he received a rebuke for his own transgression, for a mute donkey, speaking with a voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet.


17. These are springs without water and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved.
18. For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error,
19. promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.
20. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
21. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
22. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”

Amen.... thank you, heavenly Father, for your word by which You reveal and warn against the anti-christ message.... in whom You have told us they are nothing but wolves in sheep clothing !!

[modeerf]

Originally Posted by Cyber Munchkin

Are you a child of God ???
Has your sins been forgiven through Jesus Christ and He now stands as your Lord God and Savior ??

If so, then you will know the answers to the questions, if not, my suggestion is to go to God and ask Him to reveal to you the questions you hold in your heart..... I guarantee He will answer you

Have a nice day....

If i say i'm a child of God and still commit sin is that a lie?

If i continue to sin and don't forgive others, then am i forgiven?

If the Scriptures say differently than your definitions then am i trusting in the arm of flesh?

If i have asked and received, and others haven't. What does it matter what i say to them, are they not trusting in the arm of flesh? If they rely on my experience rather than having their own understanding.

[Zero 7]

Mike555:
Many of you ARE going to spend eternity separated from God in that place commonly referred to as hell...

Mike555, you preach 5-10% of people will escape hell, we preach God is willing and able to save ALL of mankind eventually. This belief will damn us? Wow. If your right, the Guy in charge has got one helluva mean streak in Him. Yikes.

[modeerf]

Originally Posted by Zero 7

Mike555, you preach 5-10% of people will escape hell, we preach God is willing and able to save ALL of mankind eventually. This belief will damn us? Wow. If your right, the Guy in charge has got one helluva mean streak in Him. Yikes.

You inherit the kingdom you choose to obey. It's that simple.

If you love God's ways, you will live them and inherit His Kingdom.

If you don't, why would you want to be there, you won't fit in.

THere are many kingdoms. There is only one Kingdom of God.

And few are willing to live according to it's precepts.

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

So, you invent a new religion and if someone doesn't believe you, you accuse them of trying to influence others to doubt the love of God?

That is some serious twist and spin you apply there.

No one is doubting anything except the false doctrine of automatic salvation.

If I told you that God loves us to much that He will put a million dollars into our bank accounts, and if you said it is not true, then would it be honest of me to accuse you of doubting God's love? I ask, because that is exactly what you and your UR friends are doing right now.

Loving your neighbor as yourself(Because God does) is not a new religion.

If God is so generous that he is accepting of all who you believe are not deserving , will you say to him you are being unfair ?

Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money(love,grace and mercy, the currency God deals in)? Or are you envious because I am generous? Matt 20:15.

For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich. 2 Cor 8:9.

God loves the world like he loves himself.

[pcamps]

Originally Posted by Cyber Munchkin

"God warns about the anti-christ cult messages that will dwell within Christianity"......

It is written.....

2 Peter 2
The Rise of False Prophets
1. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
3. and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.


4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
5. and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6. and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;
7. and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men
8. (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),
9. then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,
10. and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority.


Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,
11. whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.
12. But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,
13. suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you,
14. having eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children;
15. forsaking the right way, they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16. but he received a rebuke for his own transgression, for a mute donkey, speaking with a voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet.


17. These are springs without water and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved.
18. For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error,
19. promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.
20. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
21. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
22. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”

Amen.... thank you, heavenly Father, for your word by which You reveal and warn against the anti-christ message.... in whom You have told us they are nothing but wolves in sheep clothing !!

Why do you love bible verses that you seem to think either condemn or condemn to eternal torture those who do not see like you do ?

Can you provide one single scripture where it says if you believe something slightly off to what is considered by the many to be truth, that you are condemned ?.

To condemn someone to hell because they believe different to you is anti christ.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

So, you invent a new religion and if someone doesn't believe you, you accuse them of trying to influence others to doubt the love of God?

That is some serious twist and spin you apply there.

No one is doubting anything except the false doctrine of automatic salvation.

If I told you that God loves us to much that He will put a million dollars into our bank accounts, and if you said it is not true, then would it be honest of me to accuse you of doubting God's love? I ask, because that is exactly what you and your UR friends are doing right now.

This is your problem, Finn . . . you do not recognize the difference between comparing two loving acts (salvation and a million dollars) versus comparing one loving act with one completely unloving and evil act (salvation and ET or AN). When one of the acts invalidates and makes void the love of God . . . it must be rejected because God IS love.