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I do not have such confusion, so I do not know why Mystic makes such claims about me. Old habits die hard I guess. Or is it an old habit which is kept alive and even carefully nurtured?
Well, you have confused agape love with emotion in the past. For instance on the "Love God" thread I started (a post somewhere in the 60s on that thread references that issue), but it's good to know that you no longer do ... Although it is then difficult to understand why you agreed with Twin's post which does seem to be confusing the two.
Gods wrath remains because Gods wrath is based upon LOVE, so that no one is ever without hope.
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Just more replies to propagate yourself superior (which a form of idolatry) of your wisdom over God's justice.
How believing that it is true that God IS love and that God's justice flows from who God IS, can be construed as self-worship is mind-boggling.
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God's wrath is not based on love, but on the law and death.
Twin, if God IS love and one accepts that as being ALWAYS TRUE (you've shown no reason why we shouldn't accept that to be the case), there is no reason NOT to believe everything that comes from him must be BASED on love/his nature. Can you at least see that, even if you do not agree that God is ALWAYS LOVE?
How believing that it is true that God IS love and that God's justice flows from who God IS, can be construed as self-worship is mind-boggling.
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Twin, if God IS love and one accepts that as being ALWAYS TRUE (you've shown no reason why we shouldn't accept that to be the case), there is no reason NOT to believe everything that comes from him must be BASED on love/his nature. Can you at least see that, even if you do not agree that God is ALWAYS LOVE?
Who orginated the law that was given to Moses ... if not God? (I know you would say that is rhetorical...)
And what does scripture say:
"For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, because law brings wrath." Romans 4:14
"All who rely on observing the law are under a curse" Galations 3:10
Pleroo, realize that this not a personal attack when I say:
Pleroo, you need to start resisting the devil's misquoting of God. It is really Satan who is the one who says "yea, it may say it...but God really wouldn't carry through with it" An example of this is:
God says a person is under a curse for unbelief and Satan's reply is
" no... God is love, he is always love, love conquerers all "
Come back to the accuracy of truth Pleroo. Just how many unbelieving people trust "God's going to let me in ... eventually" because they heard that. God says for those who offer a different gospel to those who reject Jesus are eternally damned.
God is serious. He means it when he says that those who reject Jesus will only face wrath and damnation.
Pleroo, realize that this not a personal attack when I say:
Pleroo, you need to start resisting the devil's misquoting of God. It is really Satan who is the one who says "yea, it may say it...but God really wouldn't carry through with it"
Come back to the accuracy of truth Pleroo. Just how many unbelieving people trust "God's going to let me in ... eventually" because they heard that. God says for those who offer a different gospel to those who reject Jesus are eternally damned.
Pleroo . . . anyone who insists on retaining their ignorance of the psychological origins of our negative human emotions (anger, hatred, vengeance, jealousy, wrath, envy, egotism, etc.) . . . will not understand you. As long as they remain in ignorance they will accept that God has the same human weaknesses that we have. They believe in a God full of human weaknesses that has ultimate power to do what ever He wants for whatever reason He wants. There is no reasoning with that attitude.
Twin, if God IS love and one accepts that as being ALWAYS TRUE (you've shown no reason why we shouldn't accept that to be the case), there is no reason NOT to believe everything that comes from him must be BASED on love/his nature. Can you at least see that, even if you do not agree that God is ALWAYS LOVE?
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Pleroo, realize that this not a personal attack when I say
I didn't take it as an attack, and I know you're sincere and I appreciate that. I will respond to your post, but I wonder if you would be willing to respond to the question in my post?
Is it important to claim someone is 'confused' or 'ignorant' or 'God defiler' when they prove you wrong?
Prove me wrong? All you've proven is your complete lack of faith in gods ability to draw ALL men to himself.
Did I offend you?
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I didn't take it as an attack, and I know you're sincere and I appreciate that. I will respond to your post, but I wonder if you would be willing to respond to the question in my post?
