Catholic Christians (worship, protestant, faith, bishop)

[pneuma]

So you believe in Scripture in addition to...what?

This question make no sense to me sis.

I believe all scripture.

But maybe you are asking "so you believe in the bible in addition to what"

The Bible is NOT all scripture but the lying pens of the scribes have added to and taken away from scripture.

[Augusta33]

Originally Posted by pneuma

That people leave these denomination is droves show that they are NOT the true church.

Not quite. the Lord doesn't just drop his precious truth in our laps; we have to seek it. And Catholics have to do this as well. Many however don't, and this is why they are so easily lured out of the Church.

Have you ever considered why the Lord seemingly made it so easy for us Christians - living in a predominantly Christian country and culture - to come to the knowledge of truth, yet so difficult for say the woman in Saudi Arabia who could be killed for just owning a bible? Think about that.

[Augusta33]

Originally Posted by pneuma

Correct, so how is it now understood as being an infallible doctrine

I'm not sure I understand your question, pneuma.

[Augusta33]

Originally Posted by pneuma

Well what do you think the voice of God is, it is the Holy Spirit within us.

Do you audibly hear the voice of God often? Most of us don't ever hear it. I did once and that was after I was received into the Catholic Church.


And Jesus said you teach the traditions of men for the commandment of God.
Two different traditions being spoken of here.

The RCC teaches the one Jesus spoke of.

No, it doesn't. Think about this: in Scripture it tells of Paul shipwrecking on the island of Malta. Now Paul taught these people personally. Do you know that Malta is and always has been almost exclusively Catholic throughout history? Where did they get it from? Paul.



Peter instructed us to learn by example sis, tis the same thing.

Again, this is not how truth is officially taught, pneuma, by Catholics or Protestants.



Then how is it that new things keep getting added.

Nothing new.


I posted enough that you could look it up for yourself. I always find that when people see things for themselves they are more apt to believe it then when someone else tells them.

Pneuma, I use to be where you are. You've never been where I am. I devoted years to studying this prayerfully and objectively and have never once doubted. It's been the biggest blessing of my entire life. And it feels great to know I'll never have to go "church shopping" again. Or that my church will go out of business like my last one did.



They don't have any more bias then the RCC sis. Both parties try to make each other look bad. But I derive my finding from the scriptures where it concerns scripture. However when one brings up the infallibility of the popes I have no recourse but to go to the history of the church as NOTHING is said in scripture concerning popish infallibility.

Perhaps not directly but Scripture does say that truth is conveyed through both the written and oral Word.


Pneuma, have you ever read the Early Church Fathers?

[Augusta33]

Originally Posted by pneuma

This question make no sense to me sis.

I believe all scripture.

But maybe you are asking "so you believe in the bible in addition to what"

Right, you said you didn't believe in Sola Scriptura which means Scripture alone so I assumed you had another source you used in addition to it.

The Bible is NOT all scripture but the lying pens of the scribes have added to and taken away from scripture.

Which parts do you believe?? And how do you choose?

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by Augusta33

I'm not sure I understand your question, pneuma.

Has the assumption of Mary not been made an infallible doctrine?

[pneuma]

Do you audibly hear the voice of God often? Most of us don't ever hear it. I did once and that was after I was received into the Catholic Church.

Not very often, but yes I have heard is voice audibly 3 times.

No, it doesn't. Think about this: in Scripture it tells of Paul shipwrecking on the island of Malta. Now Paul taught these people personally. Do you know that Malta is and always has been almost exclusively Catholic throughout history? Where did they get it from? Paul.

I was not talking about Paul or Peter I was talking about the RCC which state things like if you do not obey the popes commands then you will be excommunicated.
traditions of men for the commandment of God

Again, this is not how truth is officially taught, pneuma, by Catholics or Protestants.

And that is the problem within every denomination sis they all say do as I say not as I do.

Nothing new.

The assumption of Mary is new sis. One pope said he did not know what happened to Mary's body, there is nothing in scripture about it, Now all of a sudden it is a doctrine.

Pneuma, I use to be where you are. You've never been where I am. I devoted years to studying this prayerfully and objectively and have never once doubted. It's been the biggest blessing of my entire life. And it feels great to know I'll never have to go "church shopping" again. Or that my church will go out of business like my last one did.

Then be at peace were you are sis, I am not trying to get you to quit the RCC, just telling you not to believe everything the pope says. Take every thought captive to Christ.

Perhaps not directly but Scripture does say that truth is conveyed through both the written and oral Word.

They also say we are taught by example.

Pneuma, have you ever read the Early Church Fathers?

Not much, but what I have read I agree with something's and disagree with other.

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by Augusta33

Which parts do you believe?? And how do you choose?

By taking every thought captive to Christ.



The lying pen of the scribes have a lot to answer for

http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/1347355-if-you-believe-jesus-why-not-25.html

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[GoodToBeHome]

Originally Posted by pneuma

A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

What the heck does that mean? You're a protestant, aren't you? That's the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it? Besides, I am a member of the original church. There's nothing more I can do other what I am doing here to convince everyone outside the church to come home.

[Tweeterfist]

Catholics aren't real Christians, plain and simple. Jesus Christ isn't the only granter of salvation to them, as is stated in the Bible. The whole Catholic religion is based off pagan Rome regardless... they simply made a transition because they had to, and what were once different deities are now saints.

The Reformers clearly showed that the Catholic Church was indeed the Antichrist. The ***** of Babylon who rode the Beast (The Beast being the nations of our world, meaning the Vatican controls these nations, which it does). As they have said, when understanding Daniel and Revelation, no one fits the descriptions as the RCC does.

500 years ago people became well aware of that and the Church was forced to persecute many and drive them from Europe. They were also forced to create the Jesuits to infiltrate the Protestant movement as well as introduce Freemasonry into the picture (Do the research and you'll find all these claims valid). Unfortunately many of us have forgotten about all this. It has been quietly covered up and many Protestant churches have been going back to friendship with Rome, it's members so ignorant as to what their church forefathers fought and died for. Sad really.