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View Poll Results: Do you believe Jesus was born of a virgin?
I am Catholic and I DO believe in a virgin birth. 9 12.50%
I am NOT Catholic and DO believe in a virgin birth. 37 51.39%
I am Catholic and DO NOT believe in a virgin birth. 2 2.78%
I am NOT Catholic and I DO NOT believe in a virgin birth. 18 25.00%
Other/Don't care 6 8.33%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-30-2011, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The information and the reason why Joseph's name is used instead of Mary's has already been explained to you. Moderator cut: orphaned
As I said, this is now finished.
Next up, Matthew (1:1-17). Moderator cut: delete The lineage here is drastically different from Luke's. I wonder why? Do you happen to have an answer to this as well? At least in this case a few select females are used in the lineage, along with Mary, but wait... Joseph was deemed necessary here as well! Why would God lie/misrepresent facts?

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Old 08-30-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... Romans 5:12-21 makes clear the neccessity of the virgin birth of Jesus.
Romans 5:12-21 does not make any mention of a virgin birth.


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... Only by being born by means of a virgin birth could Jesus be born without sin.

If there had been no virgin birth, there would have been no salvation for anyone.
This is purely your own private interpretation [letting loose].
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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Romans 5:12-21 does not make any mention of a virgin birth.
Even if it did... after the fact.
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Romans 5:12-21 does not make any mention of a virgin birth.
Are you incapable of putting things together? Sin came into the world through Adam. The sin nature is passed down through the male. For that reason, Jesus had to come into the world through a virgin birth.



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This is purely your own private interpretation [letting loose].
No it is not. It is a matter of theology. Christ could only pay for the sins of the world if He Himself were free from sin. The virgin birth was necessary in order to bring Jesus into the world free from the penalty of Adam's original sin.
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Are you incapable of putting things together? Sin came into the world through Adam. The sin nature is passed down through the male. For that reason, Jesus had to come into the world through a virgin birth. ...
Why must you deny the Bible?

God gave us His Word, there is no need for you [or anyone] to despise the Bible and make-up their own doctrines.
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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Why must you deny the Bible?

God gave us His Word, there is no need for you [or anyone] to despise the Bible and make-up their own doctrines.
The denial is not mine. The Bible teaches original sin. I have given you the scripture. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is God. As I recall, you deny that. The Bible teaches that Jesus came into the world through a virgin birth. That wasn't done just for the heck of it. It was necessary for Jesus Christ, who eternally existing as God, to become a member of the human race, but without sin. The virgin birth accomplished that.

If you choose not to acknowledge that, then that is your choice. As you are now moving toward making accusations of me despising the Bible and making things up, this conversation is over. You should study some theology.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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The denial is not mine. The Bible teaches original sin. I have given you the scripture. The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is God. As I recall, you deny that. The Bible teaches that Jesus came into the world through a virgin birth. That wasn't done just for the heck of it. It was necessary for Jesus Christ, who eternally existing as God, to become a member of the human race, but without sin. The virgin birth accomplished that.

If you choose not to acknowledge that, then that is your choice. As you are now moving toward making accusations of me despising the Bible and making things up, this conversation is over. You should study some theology.
I stand on each truth that the Bible teaches us. You insist on denying the Bible in favor of man made doctrines.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Clearly, "virgin birth" wasn't worth mentioning, and yet it appears to be central to Christ's divinity according to some around here? What about you?
It was mentioned in three places (not enough for you?), including prophecy in the OT.

Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27, 34
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:40 PM
 
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The requirements for the Lamb are laid out in the OT.

A 'virgin birth' is not among the requirements.
"Without blemish" is.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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It was mentioned in three places (not enough for you?), including prophecy in the OT.

Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27, 34
Pardon me, I just clicked on each of your links.

None of them say a word about any virgin birth.

Maybe you want to re-do your links.
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