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Old 12-27-2011, 05:39 PM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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No religion saves anyone. I know this may be a shock to some of you Christians who believe that by being a member of the JWs, Church of Christ, 7th Day Adventist, Mormon, United Church of God, Catholic church and countless other cult like christian denominations that believe that they are in the truth, and that God is sending them a direct channel of communication that no other religion receives that some how makes them righteous over other Christian organizations that don't agree with your beliefs. That's a tactic of the devil to keep us all divided, and God allows this to happen so that those of us who have been blessed by God to question all beliefs OVER WHAT THE BIBLE ACTUALLY TEACHES ABOUT TOPICS IN CONTEXT can truly study to show ourselves approved unto God, who needth not be ashamed, but RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH. 2TIM 2:15.
Seriously? Um, rightly dividing? What does that mean exactly? Dividing truth from fable? There is no truth in the bible, it's all man-made, man-written nonsense and what exactly makes you think that YOU are rightly dividing anything? What are your qualifications to claim you have the only and absolute truth?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I thought perhaps a soul calling out to God, asking for help, guidance and mercy; would be 'foremost' in spiritual growth.

We are all sinners to begin with.
Why would you think God would hear a pure heart cry out for help, guidance and mercy...and give it ?
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Seriously? Um, rightly dividing? What does that mean exactly? Dividing truth from fable? There is no truth in the bible, it's all man-made, man-written nonsense and what exactly makes you think that YOU are rightly dividing anything? What are your qualifications to claim you have the only and absolute truth?
...oh boy......
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:38 PM
 
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I do not support any church that has hirelings.

Our congregation does not pay a salary to anyone.

Ministers are either called of God, or else they are pursuing a 'career' and following after money.

The love of money is ...
Forest. Is the unpaid minister teaching you the same thing that the paid minister taught?
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Forest. Is the unpaid minister teaching you the same thing that the paid minister taught?
In the words of Jesus: "The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep" [John 10:13]

Be aware of itching ears for they draw to themselves preachers that forsake good doctrine [2 Tim 4:3]


A man hired to do a job, does the job in the manner that his employer specifies else he risks losing his job.



I should certainly expect the teachings to be slightly different.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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In the words of Jesus: "The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep" [John 10:13]

Be aware of itching ears for they draw to themselves preachers that forsake good doctrine [2 Tim 4:3]


A man hired to do a job, does the job in the manner that his employer specifies else he risks losing his job.



I should certainly expect the teachings to be slightly different.
But Forest is there a difference from what the paid hireling has taught you compared to what the unpaid hireling is teaching you?
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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But Forest is there a difference from what the paid hireling has taught you compared to what the unpaid hireling is teaching you?
I said this already once before.

YES.

And thank God for the difference

Jesus warned us, and Jesus was right.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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I said this already once before.

YES.

And thank God for the difference

Jesus warned us, and Jesus was right.
Ok Forest. What is the difference between the two?
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:47 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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So then it is your opinion that you are right and the apostle Paul is wrong!?
Read what I said and make an effort to comprehend it. You do not understand what Paul was saying. Since it is in print, I will not repeat what I have already said.

Readers can refer to post #43.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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Read what I said and make an effort to comprehend it. You do not understand what Paul was saying. Since it is in print, I will not repeat what I have already said.

Readers can refer to post #43.
"It is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous." Rom. 2:13
It seems very clear to me that "those who obey the law will be declared righteous" according to Paul. And it seems to me that it is your opinion that that Paul has not meant what he has said. Do you suppose he might be referring to an law that has been added to the law? The law of the Spirit, perhaps? That if a Jew or a Gentile has the faith to obey this one God will declare both of them righteous?
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