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[quote=Mike555;21574191]That which proceeds out of the mouth of God and has been recorded IS Scripture!!!
Mike, did the words for aion translated as:
age 2x
world 2x
course 1x
eternal 2x
ever 2x
for ever 27x
for ever and ever 21x
for evermore 3x
never 7x
world 32x
come from God's mouth or man's misunderstanding of that word?
Referring me to a post where you haven't got your facts straight isn't going to help.
I never said the bible was not the word of God and you will never be able to make the case for that and your post #206 doesn't do that either and you know it.
I am saying the the bible is not what Jesus was talking about when he said he was living on every word out of the mouth of God. That moment may have been recorded on paper and we can read it in print now, but that doesn't change that Jesus was being sustained by a true spiritual connection with the Father because it was every word out of his mouth, not every word that was written down.
Referring me to a post where you haven't got your facts straight isn't going to help.
I never said the bible was not the word of God and you will never be able to make the case for that and your post #206 doesn't do that either and you know it.
I am saying the the bible is not what Jesus was talking about when he said he was living on every word out of the mouth of God. That moment may have been recorded on paper and we can read it in print now, but that doesn't change that Jesus was being sustained by a true spiritual connection with the Father because it was every word out of his mouth, not every word that was written down.
I was referring readers to post #206 which was my final answer to you and your nonsense. There are others who will indulge you, but I will not.
Yes, that is true also, however the recorded scriptures bring consensus within the body of Christ collectively (rather than by individual interpretation) as to what the Holy Spirit spoke through the prophets and apostles.
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Jesus, of course. However, the term prophecy is also used for understanding and having knowledge of hidden or secret things (mysteries), as shown here:
1Co 13:2 and if I have prophecy, and know all the secrets, and all the knowledge, and if I have all the faith, so as to remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing;
Do not be deceived by those who claim that the Bible is not the word of God and that the Scriptures are not needed. Who will you believe? Those who make such claims and demonstrate their ignorance of and hostility toward the Bible, or the apostles who stated that their messages were the word of God and not the word of men?
Who are you going to believe Jesus or another? It was Jesus who said the LIFE was in Him and that LIFE could not be found in the scripture.
Whether you like it or not Mike the Word of God is LIFE and that LIFE cannot be found in the scriptures.
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1 Thessalonians 2:13 And for this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe.
The New Testament epistles were written to and for believers so that as believers, they could mature spiritually.
Ephesians 4:11 'And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12] for the equiping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13] until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fulness of Christ. 14] As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15] but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him, who is the head, even Christ, 16] from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by that which every joint suppplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
The New Testament epistles are for the purpose of the building up of the body of Christ, and the teaching and instruction of the believer so that the believer does not remain a child and therefore susceptable to the deceitful schemes and trickery of men.
In 1 Thess 2:13 Paul stated that his messages which were from God, whether presented orally or in writing, were the word of God.
Eek Gad, ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
The scriptures and the Gospel message are NOT the same thing. When scripture is referred to it is talking about the OT as in the days of Christ only the OT was in existence.
Mike if the scriptures are the Word of God explain to me why we then need apostles, prophets, evangelists , pastors and teachers to equip the saints.
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Jesus, as the revealed Person of the Godhead, is the Word of God. The Bible is God's recorded message to man and is therefore His word - the preserved word of God.
Ha ha the preserved word of God, don't let fact get in your way Mike. The scriptures have NOT been preserved they have been corrupted again and again.
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Therefore, who will you believe? Those who in ignorance proclaim that the Bible is not the word of God, or the apostles who stated that their messages were the word of God. The very messages which have been recorded in the New Testament epistles, and which Peter gave the same weight as the rest of the Scriptures, referring to the Old Testament Scriptures (2 Peter 3:14-18).
How does the believer grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? (2 Peter 3:18) Through the Scriptures which are the word of God!!!
The Message. Not the word of men, but the word of God!!!
And again Jesus said you only think you can find LIFE in the scripture and because you think that you can find LIFE in the scriptures you refuse to come to HIM that you might have LIFE.
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