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You are either ignorant of the truth, or you are deliberately attempting to deceive whoever you may. It is you who are spreading a false gospel. Those who reject the gospel message concerning Christ will spent eternity separated from God in torment in the lake of fire. There will be no reprieve from the lake of fire. There will be no annihliation. There will be no escape. There will be eternal torment and suffering.
The good news of the gospel is that because of what Christ did on the cross, those who believe in Him are delivered from that condemnation. The bad news is that those who reject Christ remain under condemnation.
And for those who deliberately are attempting to deceive others, and will not cease, then may they be cursed.
I have given you and shown you the Gospel. It's because you do not believe that Gospel that you say what you do against it.
I have given you and shown you the Gospel. It's because you do not believe that Gospel that you say what you do against it.
The gospel also includes this. John 3:16 'For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him, should not perish but have eternal life.
You have left out the necessity of having to place your faith in Christ in order to appropriate the work of Christ on the cross. You turn truth into a lie by ommiting the need to believe in Christ so that you may be saved.
Apart from placing your faith in Christ to receive the gift of eternal life, what He did on your behalf will avail you NOTHING. You will be thrown into the lake of fire forever.
All men are not automatically saved. And there is no second chance after death to be saved.
The Gospel is not really an "offer" as you (as well as Finn and Mike555, woops! I said it again) like to put it, such as what a seller might offer on eBay, even if you were offering it for free. But rather the Gospel is a proclamation of truth, a heralding of Good News, to be believed. Not in-order to make it true or so that it can be true, but rather because it is true, and it is so on it's own merits.
What you're trying to "offer" sinners, and what Paul is proclaiming to the sinner, comes from a fundamentally different perspective of what the Gospel is.
Your gospel is really about ifs and possibilities, chances and offers. That is really not what the Gospel is.
The Gospel is an accomplished truth, an objective fact that is to be believed. When we receive that truth (through faith) it brings with it the fruits of peace, love, joy, etc., in the Holy Spirit.
Paul was not in the business of selling or offering truth (such as you, Finn and Mike555 {darn I did it again} do). Paul was rather proclaiming it to be the truth, through the Gospel.
Amen. The gospel of Christ IS the TRUTH. It's not about an offer. That fact does not stop people from trying to peddle the gospel, however. The 4 walled churches have been in the business of buying and selling the gospel for millennial what God freely gives.
The gospel also includes this. John 3:16 'For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him, should not perish but have eternal life.
You have left out the necessity of having to place your faith in Christ in order to appropriate the work of Christ on the cross. You turn truth into a lie by ommiting the need to believe in Christ so that you may be saved.
Apart from placing your faith in Christ to receive the gift of eternal life, what He did on your behalf will avail you NOTHING. You will be thrown into the lake of fire forever.
All men are not automatically saved. And there is no second chance after death to be saved.
I have not left out anything concerning the Gospel. Joh 3:16 is a wonderful truth that Jesus proclaims, as is all scripture, including many of the things Turtle listed. However, those things are NOT the Gospel. Nor do they tell us what the Gospel is, and what saves us.
Nowhere in Joh 3:16 does it tell us that Christ died for our sins, nowhere does it tell us that Jesus was buried and resurrected for our justification. No where does it tell us that we are healed by His stripes.
Because you do not know or believe the Gospel you'll continue to say the things you do.
I have not left out anything concerning the Gospel. Joh 3:16 is a wonderful truth that Jesus proclaims, as is all scripture, including many of the things Turtle listed. However, those things are NOT the Gospel. Nor do they tell us what the Gospel is, and what saves us.
Nowhere in Joh 3:16 does it tell us that Christ died for our sins, nowhere does it tell us that Jesus was buried and resurrected for our justification. No where does it tell us that we are healed by His stripes.
Because you do not know or believe the Gospel you'll continue to say the things you do.
Yes it is part of the gospel. It is good news pertaining to salvation, and it states the requirement for salvation. Non-meritorious faith in Christ. Without that, Christ's death, burial, and resurrection will avail you NOTHING. As do many, you fail to integrate all the scripture pertinent to a particular doctrine.
Yes it is part of the gospel. It is good news pertaining to salvation, and it states the requirement for salvation. Non-meritorious faith in Christ. Without that, Christ's death, burial, and resurrection will avail you NOTHING. As do many, you fail to integrate all the scripture pertinent to a particular doctrine.
Yes it is part of the gospel. It is good news pertaining to salvation, and it states the requirement for salvation. Non-meritorious faith in Christ. Without that, Christ's death, burial, and resurrection will avail you NOTHING. As do many, you fail to integrate all the scripture pertinent to a particular doctrine.
No, it is not. There are no requirements pertaining to salvation other than what Christ Himself has accomplished. It is Christ ALONE
Read the Gospel that Jesus by revelation gave to Paul. Read what Isaiah tells us. I've pasted it here in this thread (numerous times) for all to read.
And yes, we are to receive and believe, through faith, what Jesus has accomplished for us, as presented to us in the scriptures. However, that is NOT what saves us nor is God waiting on us in-order to save us. And do not give me any of your angelic host theories either. Those theories of yours are also not the Gospel.
9“This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name, 10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven. 11Give us today our daily bread. 12Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.a’ 14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
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