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Old 11-14-2011, 06:40 PM
 
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Well, Christmas is just around the corner, and this year, as in years past, I find myself asking, "Why all this commercialism for one day out of the year"?
I have yet to understand, in all my years, why people give each other presents at Christmas.
Unless YOU were born on Christmas day, it is NOT your birthday, and you should not be getting any presents.
Somehow we all forget just WHO'S birthday Christmas day really is.
Can anyone of you tell me what a plasma tv given to someone in your family at Christmas, has to do with the birth of Christ?
It would seem we are giving presents too each other more out of habit than anything else, while all the while being taunted by mega store chains into believing it is the thing to do .
At the time of the birth of Christ, HE received presents from the three wise men, who apparently traveled many miles to present their offerings.
These gifts were given in celebration of HIS birth, not your's.
It has been said, (by mortal man) that "Christmas is a time for giving".
This is true, but somehow along the path of life, that meaning has been grossly twisted to mean everyone who is a Christian MUST receive gifts on this day of celebration.
Why should that be so?
It isn't most people's birthday.
It would be equal to you receiving presents when you neighbor's birthday comes around.
If you want to celebrate this day as it should be, and was intended, give a gift to Jesus Christ in the form of love.
Love of your neighbor, love of that person less fortunate than you.
Give of your time to help someone.
Give inspiration to those who feel down.
Show Jesus you care.
These gifts from you are truly in the name of what was intended to celebrate, the birth of Jesus.
After all, it is not your birthday, and giving, and receiving material things from others is not the true reason of Christmas.
Giving of one's self to Jesus is the best you can do in this time.
All this leads me to one other facet of Christmas.
Christmas trees, and the billions of outdoor lights adorning suburbia, weeks before Christmas day.
What is all that about?
To me the answer can be summed up in a couple of words."Narcissus Syndrome."
This overwhelming need to be bigger, and better than one's neighbor.
Plain and simple, all this showy flamboyance has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
So as you wander about your local shopping mall this season, stop and ask yourself, just who's birthday am I celebrating.
We all need to stop and reflect on just what Christmas is supposed to be.
Trust me, it isn't gaudy Christmas lights by the millions, or a brand new 52" plasma tv in you spoiled little brat's bedroom.
Think about it this time, and realize just why this day has come into being in the first place.
It wasn't so you can give expensive (or for that matter, any) gifts to mortals.
The day is in celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, and your priorities should be to honor his birth in ways that are directed at the spirit of Jesus, that should lie in each and every one of us.
I want you to understand, I am not an overly religious person, and only practice it between myself, and my creator.
I have offered this post in the hope that even in these times of commercialism, and moral decay, we all take one step back, and realize what the true meaning of Christmas is, and how we should be responding to it.
Bob.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:56 PM
 
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I agree that holidays have become far too commercial. I also think that this thread would be better received in the Religion forum.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:57 AM
 
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Why? It was directed at and for Christians. I, for one, absolutely agree 100% with the OP.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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::Sigh:: This is America . . . Land of the Free . . . remember? Celebrate what YOU want in the way YOU want for the reasons YOU want . . . get it? Where does all this judgmental pomposity come from anyway?
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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And yet if no store commemorated Christmas in any way, shape or form you'd probably be the first one to picket those stores.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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I want you to understand, I am not an overly religious person, and only practice it between myself, and my creator.

Well, if that was true you wouldn't of went on a long rant telling everyone else how bad they are.

Funny thing is, many of us do both, we buy people gifts because we WANT to and we have fun and good times and understanding Jesus birth is also a part of that.

See many of us celebrate Christ everyday and have no need to make Christmas into some religious ordeal that we expect everyone else to adhere to.

You actually have the greater problem, you find bitterness in Christmas because you are not looking for anything good in the first place.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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In a secular world were most people live, Christmas is celebrated were people can Worship the Lord in the public place which the liberal spirit has blaspheme all year to the Lord; Christmas, Easter, thanksgiving are holy days and Christians should be blessed as there are many countries of the world who do not have these holy days ..... This Worship is a virtue of Fortitude, which blesses the Lord as Christians are call to worship the Lord in spirit and in truth , were one way of worship in the spirit is fortitude
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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Well, if that was true you wouldn't of went on a long rant telling everyone else how bad they are.

Funny thing is, many of us do both, we buy people gifts because we WANT to and we have fun and good times and understanding Jesus birth is also a part of that.

See many of us celebrate Christ everyday and have no need to make Christmas into some religious ordeal that we expect everyone else to adhere to.

You actually have the greater problem, you find bitterness in Christmas because you are not looking for anything good in the first place.

You totally missed the point of the post.
It was to try and explain to all those hell bent on spending tons of money they don't have, on presents that have absolutely nothing to do with the birth of Jesus Christ, and enlighten them to why Christmas happens at all.

[quote=Funny thing is, many of us do both, we buy people gifts because we WANT to and we have fun and good times and understanding Jesus birth is also a part of that.[/quote]

The part about understanding Jesus's birth is totally bogus.
Go to your local mall, and ask those shopping, why they are doing it, and I would bet the farm you will not get one person to say "because it is the birth of Jesus , and I think of him while I am shopping, and especially when opening gifts on Christmas day".
You most definitely need a reality check.
You need to get real.
Bob.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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You totally missed the point of the post.
It was to try and explain to all those hell bent on spending tons of money they don't have, on presents that have absolutely nothing to do with the birth of Jesus Christ, and enlighten them to why Christmas happens at all.



The part about understanding Jesus's birth is totally bogus.
Go to your local mall, and ask those shopping, why they are doing it, and I would bet the farm you will not get one person to say "because it is the birth of Jesus , and I think of him while I am shopping, and especially when opening gifts on Christmas day".
You most definitely need a reality check.
You need to get real.
Bob.

If your not religious, what difference does it make to you?
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that everyone runs around fighting in stores over the last bargain item is thinking thoughts of Jesus. What I am pointing out is that for religious people to seemingly focus upon physical holidays as some kind of pinnacle to loving God is highly misplaced.

Perhaps it is people who think no one should go out and buy gifts because they think it is "their" holiday and everyone else should act like them that had spurred the movement to simply say happy holidays.

I grew up in a home where we couldn;t have a tree, very few decorations, we was allowed to make paper snowflakes and construction paper chains and put them up around.

But that in an of itself was not the problem. The problem was that while my parents wanted to say that Christmas was a time of celebrating Jesus birth, the tone of life in my home growing up was nothing joyous at all. I can understand folks in their personal lives not participating in decorations and gift buying. But Calguy, you don't strike me as someone who is actually celebrating Christmas with Joy and love and grace.

Why not post things concerning the wonderful joy you have, all I see is your bitterness. You aren't, like my parents weren't, very convincing that this time of year, is something you actually celebrate with wonder and joy of your saviours birth. My parents never instilled into me anything but not wanting to be like that at Christmas time, so I stay pretty much clear of most religious things this time of year because so many others are out railing on about the ills of things rather than showing how much joy they actually have, which seems to be lacking in the religious community.
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