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Unread 11-30-2011, 04:44 AM
 
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It is impossible to be grace oriented as long as the believer thinks that he can lose his eternal salvation. The eternal security of the believer is well taught in the Scriptures.

Eternal life is a free gift from God and the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Romans 6:23 'For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 11:29 'for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Irrevocable - ametamelétos - Not to be repented of (repentence means 'a change of mind.')

Strong's Concordance
Definition: not to be repented of, about which no change of mind can take place, not affected by change of mind.
Strong's Greek: 278. ???????????? (ametamelétos) -- not repented of

Literally: For not repented of are the grace gifts and calling of God.

God does not revoke what He has given or whom He has chosen. In eternity past God knew who would believe in Christ, and on that basis He chose them.

God does not and cannot change His mind about His call. The context of Romans 11:29 is Israel, (God has not cast away Israel), but the principle applies to all to whom God has given eternal life.

In Rom 11:30 Paul then refers to the Gentiles having now been shown mercy, and then in Rom 11:32 Paul writes that mercy has been shown to all. 'All' refers to both groups - Jews and Gentiles who in this present dispensation are a new creation. The Church is the body of Christ.

The gifts which God bestows on those who believe in Christ are forgiveness of sins, sanctification, and eternal life.

Regarding sanctification: The sins of the world, past, present, and future, were poured out on Christ during the three hour period from noon to about 3:00 P.M. When the Father had judged all the sins of the world Jesus said ''Tetelestai'' It is finished. More accurately, ''It has been finished.'' Tetelestai is in the Perfect Indicative. The Perfect Indicative refers to past action completed with results existing forever.

Acts 26:18 'to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the dominion of Satan to God, in order that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified by faith in Me.

Hegiasmenois - 'have been sanctified' is a Perfect Participle.

The basic thought of the perfect tense is that the progress of an action has been completed and the results of the action are continuing on, in full effect. In other words, the progress of the action has reached its culmination and the finished results are now in existence. Unlike the English perfect, which indicates a completed past action, the Greek perfect tense indicates the continuation and present state of a completed past action.
Greek Verbs (Shorter Definitions)

Acts 26:18 is saying that the believer has been positionally sanctified (set apart, placed into union with Christ) through faith in Christ, and he is sanctified forever.

Hebrews 10:10 states, ''By this will we (believers) have been [we are] sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL.''

Again, although the phrase 'esmen - we are' is Present tense, the word 'sanctified' is in the Perfect tense which means past action completed with results continuing forever.

Hebrews 10:10 is referring to Positional Sanctification which occurs at the moment of faith in Christ.


Now go to Hebrews 10:12 'but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God.

Jesus' sacrifice was offered for all time. Not just until someone commits willful sin.


Now see Hebrews 10:14 'For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

Teteleioken -'He has perfected,' for all time those who are sanctified.

By the one offering of Jesus Christ, those who have believed in Him have been Positionally Sanctified and Positionally perfected FOR ALL TIME.

No matter what the condition of the believer is EXPERIENTIALLY after his eternal salvation, POSITIONALLY, God has caused him to be Sanctified FOREVER.



Sin is not an issue so far as the believers eternal security is concerned. The believer will be disciplined for sin, and continuing disobedience will result in loss of eternal rewards, but no amount of sin will cause a believer to lose his salvation. God disciplines the believer as a son no matter how rebellious he may be (Hebrews 12:4-6).


Hebrews 6:4-8 is simply referring to Jewish believers who were enticed into reverting back to the practices of Judaism. They began doing animal sacrifices which since the sacrifice of Christ on the cross were no longer to be practiced since they simply pointed to the sacrifice of Christ. Because they were doing this, they were in effect recrucifying Jesus. They had fallen away from what they had been taught concerning Christ. They had not and could not fall away from their eternal salvation. But they could come under divine discipline. Though Paul states that it is impossible to renew them to repentance since they are again crucifying to themselves the Son of God, what is impossible for man, is not impossible for God. Through divine discipline the wayward believer might repent - change his mind about dead works and about faith in Christ (Hebrews 6:1).

If the believer who has fallen away (the reverionistic believer) fails to recover, then he is useless, a loser believer and God may well take him out of this life under maximum divine discipline - the sin unto death, in which the reversionistic believer is taken home to heaven in a state of disgrace.

'Being burned' (Hebrews 6:8) fire (Hebrews 10:27) refers to judgment. In the case of the believer, it NEVER refers to the lake of fire.

Hebrews 6:8 'But if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.', is a metaphor which recalls the original curse which God put on the ground (Gen 3:17-19). The burning of a field to destroy the rank growth of vegetation it produced which might be harmful to health was practiced in the ancient world. The purpose was to destroy the unwanted produce in the field. With that done, the field might be of use. The unproductive Christian life, the believer who has fallen away into reversionism is subject to severe punishment from God (Heb 10:27). The writer of Hebrews said in Heb 12:29 'for our God is a consumng fire. God dishes out severe punishment to believers who disobey, but He does not take back His free gift of eternal life.

Refer back to Lamentations 4:6 and Jeremiah 17:27, both of which deal with God's punishment to 'His people,' - Believers. This is temporal punishment. Not eternal punishment.

Lamentations 4:6 'For the iniquity of the daughter of My people is greater than the sin of Sodom, which was overthrown as in a moment, and no hands were turned toward her. The resulting punishment - Lam 4:9 'Better are those slain with the sword than those slain with hunger; For they pine away, being stricken for lack of the fruits of the field. 10] The hands of compassionate women boiled their own children; they became food for them because of the destruction of the daughter of my people. 11] The Lord has accomplished His wrath, He has poured out His fierce anger; and He has kindled a fire in Zion which has consumed its foundation.


God warned His people in Jeremiah 17:27 ''But if you do not listen to Me to keep the sabbath day holy by not carrying a load and coming in through the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day, then I will kindle a fire in its gates, and it will devour the palaces of Jerusalem and not be quenched. '' '

The fire mentioned in those two passages refer to TEMPORAL punishment. Not eternal punishment. Not to a loss of eternal salvation.

King Saul came to a point where because of his continual disobedience he was taken out of this life under the sin unto death, but he never lost his eternal salvation. When the prophet Samuel, long since dead, was brought up in a vision to King Saul, he told Saul that the very next day, he would be with him (1 Samuel 28:19). And Samuel was in Abraham's bosom - The Paradise side of Sheol/Hades. King Saul, despite his disobedience and being taken out of this life under maximum divine discipline ended up in Paradise. He never lost his salvation.


I mentioned earlier that the gifts of God are irrevocable. The church-age believer at the moment of his salvation is the beneficiary of at least forty grace gifts. They are as follows...

1)Access to God (Rom. 5:2; Eph. 2:18; Eph.3:12)

2)The Baptism of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor.12:13; Gal.3:26-28; Eph.4:5)

3)The Unique Availability of Divine Power (Eph. 6:10; Acts 1:8)

4)Efficacious Grace (Eph 2:8-9; 2 Cor.6:1-2)

5)Election (Eph.1:3-4; Col 3:12-17)

6)Equal Privilege and Opportunity (Gal. 3:26-28)

7)Escrow Blessings (Eph. 1:3)

8)Eternal Life (1 John 5:11-13)

9)Eternal Security (John 10:29; Rom.8:31-32; Rom. 8:1; 2 Cor. 5:17; 1 Peter 1:5; 1 Cor. 12:21; John 10:28)

10)The filling of the Holy Spirit (Eph. 5:18; Gal. 5:16; John 4:24)

11)A Secure, Immovable Foundation (1 Cor. 3:11; Eph 2:20; Deut. 32:4)

12)Being Presented as a gift from God the Father to God the Son (John 10:29; John 17:2; John 17:6; John 17:9; John 17:11; Rev. 19:7-10; Rev.19:16)

13)Deliverance from the Great White Throne Judgment and the Lake of Fire (John 3:18; Rom. 8:1)

14)Identification with God the Son in Biblical Analogy (1 Cor. 15:45; 2 Cor. 15:17; Col. 1:18; Heb. 13:20; John 15:5; Eph. 2:20; 1 Peter 2:5-6; Heb. 4:14; 1 Peter 2:9; Rev. 19:7; Rev. 19:14-16)

15)The Indwelling of God the Father (John 14:22-23; Eph.4:6; Phil. 2:13; 1 John 4:15; 2 John 1:9)

16)The Indwelling of God the Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:11;1 Cor. 3:16; 1 Cor. 6:19; 2 Cor. 6:16)

17)The Indwelling of God the Son (John 14:20; John 17:22-23,26; Rom. 8:10; 2 Cor. 13:5; Gal. 2:20; Col.1:27)

18)An Eternal Inheritance (Heb. 9:15; Eph. 1:14; 1 Peter 1:4)

19)Justification (Gal. 2:16; Tit. 3:7; Rom 3:28)

20)Transference into the Kingdom of God (Eph. 2:3; Col. 1:13)

21)Deliverance from the Kingdom of Satan (Col. 1:13)

22)The New Spiritual Species (2 Cor. 5:17; Gal 6:15)

23)Positional Sanctification--adopted as Adult sons (Rom. 8:15; [Rom. 8:23-future]; Eph. 1:5)

24)Predestination (Eph. 1:5)

25)The Ten Problem-Solving Devices of the Predesigned Plan of God ( Refer to the link that I will provide at the bottom of this list.)

26)Propitiation (Rom. 3:24-25; 1 John 2:2, 4:10)

27)The Unique Predesigned Plan of God for the Church-age (Gal. 5:16; Eph 3:18. Refer to link for greater detail)

28)Reconciliation (2 Cor.5:19; Rom. 5:10)

29)Redemption (Eph. 1:7; Col. 1:14)

30)Regeneration (John 3:5-16; Titus 3:5)

31)The guarantee of a Resurrection Body (John 11:25; 1 Cor. 15:43; Phil. 3:20-21)

32)The Imputed Righteousness of God (Rom. 3:22; 2 Cor. 5:21)

33)The Royal Ambassadorship (2 Cor. 5:20; Phil. 3:20)

34)Entrance into the Royal Family of God (Rev. 1:6; Acts 1:5; Rom. 6:3-4; 1 Cor. 6:19-20)

35)The Royal Priesthood (1 Peter 2:5; Rev. 1:6; Rev. 5:10)

36)The Removal of all Scar Tissue from the Soul (Isa. 43:25,44:22)

37)The Sealing Ministry of the Holy Spirit (Eph. 1:13-14)

38)Deliverance from the Power and Influence of the Old Sin Nature (Rom. 2:29; Phil. 3:3; Col. 2:11; Eph. 4:22; 1 John 1:9; John 8:34; John 8:36)

39)The Distribution of Spiritual Gifts (1 Cor.12:7-11; Eph. 4:11)

40)The Unlimited Atonement (2 Cor. 5:14-15; 1 Tim. 2:6;4:10; Titus 2:11; 1 John 2:2; Rom. 5:6

These 40 grace gifts are described in the following publication.

The Grace Gifts given at Salvation - Publications - Robert McLaughlin Bible Ministries / Grace Bible Church - bible doctrine truth in Christ

And they are irrevocable.

Regarding number 10 however - the filling of the Spirit, that is lost every time a believer commits a sin, and is restored when the sin is named as per 1 John 1:9.

The believer is eternally secure. He can never lose his salvation. Those believers who do not understand this will never be grace oriented and will never advance in their spiritual lives. They will never get out of spiritual kindergarden.

Now here are the links again with regard to Hebrews 6:4-8

BIBLE STUDY MANUALS: HEBREWS CHAPTER 6

Falling Away? A Study of Hebrews 6 | GraceThruFaith

No Second Repentance? Hebrews 6:4-8 (http://www.faithalone.org/news/y1992/92july3.html - broken link)
Well done. We all know they will come back and say "I don't get it, you are not being clear", but all you can do is take the horse to the water. If they refuse to drink, it's their fault.
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Unread 11-30-2011, 04:51 AM
 
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John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one

John 6:40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Unread 11-30-2011, 05:49 AM
 
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It's is impossible for a person that is not " totally perfect " to earn Salvation , and that's the reason why (Christ ) Jesus earned it for us , however if a person at any point in time refuses to offer repentances of their's sin to the Lord GOD Almighty , they void the marriage contract between themselves and JESUS The ( CHRIST) and could not enter the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN UNTIL they bring themselves to the point of Repentances.
Amen...but only ONE repentance is the TRUE repentance Howest, not repentance(S)... If you honestly "repent", with Godly sorrow and a truly contrite, broken heart, only to return to your sinful nature, it was never truly repentance at all.

Here's God's opinion...

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame

Hebrews 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,

Hebrews 10:29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

God Bles you,
Verna.
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Unread 11-30-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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That not what we are saying at all , the WORD of GOD says that NOTHING CAN TAKE YOU OUT OF THE HAND OF GOD , however some people do get tired of their's Salvation , and or MAD AT GOD for something that he didn't do for them " and WALK OR JUMP OUT OF THE HAND OF GOD ".
Yes, this is correct Howest, and when they do turn back to their sinful nature, after repenting, then it never was repentance at all...it was a lie. They are children of the devil, not a child of God.
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That not what we are saying at all , the WORD of GOD says that NOTHING CAN TAKE YOU OUT OF THE HAND OF GOD , however some people do get tired of their's Salvation , and or MAD AT GOD for something that he didn't do for them " and WALK OR JUMP OUT OF THE HAND OF GOD ".
"Nothing" includes you. You are a part of "anything else in all creation". That is the promise of Jesus Christ. It has been shown to all readers on this thread that Heb 6 certainly does not teach that your salvation can be taken back.


Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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"Nothing" includes you. You are a part of "anything else in all creation". That is the promise of Jesus Christ. It has been shown to all readers on this thread that Heb 6 certainly does not teach that your salvation can be taken back.


Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Again, who is the us...?

Nothing beneath the Almighty; visible enemies he does not even deign to name. Shall be able - Either by force, Rom 8:35; or by any legal claim, Rom 8:33, and c. To separate us from the love of God in Christ - Which will surely save, protect, deliver us who believe in, and through, and from, them all.
Commentary by-Wesley's Notes on the Bible.

US is THE BELOVED OF GOD, CALLED TO BE SAINTS, NOT WILLFULL SINNERS.





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Again, who is the us...?

Nothing beneath the Almighty; visible enemies he does not even deign to name. Shall be able - Either by force, Rom 8:35; or by any legal claim, Rom 8:33, and c. To separate us from the love of God in Christ - Which will surely save, protect, deliver us who believe in, and through, and from, them all.
Commentary by-Wesley's Notes on the Bible.

US is THE BELOVED OF GOD, CALLED TO BE SAINTS, NOT WILLFULL SINNERS.

Us = Saved people, those who believe, "everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him".


John 6:40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
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Unread 11-30-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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No, it does not mean that there is going to be a dialog. I have provided sufficent information from the Scriptures to show that the believer has eternal security. You can either believe it or not believe it. I don't particularly care. You are responsible for what you believe. And you must bear the consequences. All I can do is point out the truth. No legalist is grace oriented. The legalist has no concept of what God's grace really means. And as a matter of fact, if a person has never understood that eternal salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, but has instead attempted to earn his salvation, he isn't even saved, and is on his way to hell.

We can be wrong about something and still be saved, if a person believes in Christ even if they think they must perform works to maintain or keep or earn salvation, they are saved. Not understanding that salvation is by grace alone is not anything that damns a person.

A legalist can be saved if they believe in Christ, just because they may go about practicing their faith differently than others and perhaps do not see grace the same way as someone else does not mean they aren't saved.
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We can be wrong about something and still be saved, if a person believes in Christ even if they think they must perform works to maintain or keep or earn salvation, they are saved. Not understanding that salvation is by grace alone is not anything that damns a person.
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Usually, when people study the word, and mature in their faith, they learn the truth about works.

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Us = Saved people, those who believe, "everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him".


John 6:40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
Then, if these same redemptive, born of God souls turns back to his sinfull nature, there is no more sacrifice for these WILLFULL sins..in other words...or, I should say, in God's words...


Hebrews...

1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,


6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ - That is, saying no more of them for the present. Let us go on to perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works - From open sins, the very first thing to be insisted on. And faith in God - The very next point. So St. Paul in his very first sermon at Lystra, Acts 14:15, Turn from those vanities unto the living God. And when they believed, they were to be baptized with the baptism, not of the Jews, or of John, but of Christ. The next thing was, to lay hands upon them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: after which they were more fully instructed, touching the resurrection, and the general judgment; called eternal, because the sentence then pronounced is irreversible, and the effects of it remain for ever.

2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.
6:3 And this we will do - We will go on to perfection; and so much the more diligently, because,
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

6:4 It is impossible for those who were once enlightened - With the light of the glorious love of God in Christ. And have tasted the heavenly gift - Remission of sins, sweeter than honey and the honeycomb. And been made partakers of the Holy Ghost - Of the witness and the fruit of he Spirit.

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6:5 And have tasted the good word of God - Have had a relish for, and a delight in it. And the powers of the world to come - Which every one tastes, who has an hope full of immortality. Every child that is naturally born, first sees the light, then receives and tastes proper nourishment, and partakes of the things of this world. In like manner, the apostle, comparing spiritual with natural things, speaks of one born of the Spirit, as seeing the light, tasting the sweetness, and partaking of the things of the world to come.

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

6:6 And have fallen away - Here is not a supposition, but a plain relation of fact. The apostle here describes the case of those who have cast away both the power and the form of godliness; who have lost both their faith, hope, and love, Heb 6:10, and c., and that wilfully, Heb 10:26. Of these wilful total apostates he declares, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance. (though they were renewed once,) either to the foundation, or anything built thereon. Seeing they crucify the Son of God afresh - They use him with the utmost indignity. And put him to an open shame - Causing his glorious name to be blasphemed.
Commentary by-Wesley.
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