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Old 11-27-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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You folks know not the scriptures nor the power therein: A Christian certainly can fall away, lose their faith and lose their salvation. Note the following texts:

Heb 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,Heb 6:5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age,Heb 6:6 if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Heb 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, Heb 10:27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Heb 10:28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.Heb 10:29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
I do not believe a born again person would deliberatly continue to sin. If he did, he was not born again in the first place.
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Old 11-27-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.

I heard someone claim that the above means that a saved person can have his name blotted out of the book of life and lose his salvation if they sin. That would imply two things:

1. A person can lose his/her salvation
2. Salvation is through works (sinless life)

Both are false.

Luke 10:20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.

"He who overcomes" does not mean a sinless person, it simpleu refers to a saved person. Their names will never be blotted out of from the Lamb's Book Of Life.
L - I - E ! ! !

Luke 10:20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.

DO YOU KNOW WHO THE "YOUR" ARE...? THE SEVENTY DISCIPLES THAT JESUS SENT OUT TWO BY TWO, TO PROCLAIM THE WORD OF GOD! THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST! OBEDIENT, UNWILLFULL SINNERS! SABBATH KEEPERS! FAITHFUL SAINTS!

...UGH.


16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. 17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Y0U ABSOLUTELY CAN LOSE YOUR SALVATION AND WILL LOSE YOUR SALVATION IF YOU EVER EVEN HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

And Abraham's FAITH/OBEDIENCE was counted unto Him as righteousness!!!...WORKS!!

20He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

Stop teaching a false gospel!
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Old 11-27-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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L - I - E ! ! !

Luke 10:20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.

DO YOU KNOW WHO THE "YOUR" ARE...? THE SEVENTY DISCIPLES THAT JESUS SENT OUT TWO BY TWO, TO PROCLAIM THE WORD OF GOD! THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST! OBEDIENT, UNWILLFULL SINNERS! SABBATH KEEPERS! FAITHFUL SAINTS!

...UGH.


16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. 17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Y0U ABSOLUTELY CAN LOSE YOUR SALVATION AND WILL LOSE YOUR SALVATION IF YOU EVER EVEN HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

And Abraham's FAITH/OBEDIENCE was counted unto Him as righteousness!!!...WORKS!!

20He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

Stop teaching a false gospel!
No, I am going to continue, as it is the truth. It is not my fault if you do not have assurance of your salvation.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life


John 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."

John 5:24 I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

John 6:47 I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life.

Acts 10:43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.

Acts 13:38-39 "Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses.

John 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God

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Old 11-27-2011, 05:01 PM
 
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[quote=Verna Perry;21879761][Moderator cut: Orphaned

In Luke 7:48 when Jesus said "Your sins are forgiven.", He meant it. He didn't mean her sins were forgiven, unless she screwed up later and lost her salvation.

Rom 8 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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Old 11-27-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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I believe that if someone looses his/her salvation that person was never saved in the first place. I believe once you are saved you are saved. How can anyone depart from the love of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. When you know that the Holy Spirit is in you and that God loves you and you also love him. It does not make sense.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Can your name be blotted out of the Book Of Life?

Only in people's minds who are not qualified to judge.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Yes, and it is more common than this generation is willing to accept.
Those who knowingly blaspheme the Holy Spirit are asking for their names to blotted from the Lamb's Book of Life.Moderator cut: edit

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Old 11-27-2011, 06:04 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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Can your name be blotted out of the Book Of Life?

No. For the answer to be yes, God would be a liar.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Can your name be blotted out of the Book Of Life?

No. For the answer to be yes, God would be a liar.
What about the one unforgivable sin? (Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit).
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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What about the one unforgivable sin? (Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit).
You cannot commit that sin today.
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