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Old 12-08-2011, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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then why was the eunuch baptized?
Well, why not? It was the thing to do, and still is.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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The first protestant reformers all believed that baptism was necessary. The believe that baptism is NOT necessary is most likely a relatively recent (1800+) American protestant derivative concept.
most reformers have quotes and writings that include their stance on baptism readily available online... people should look them up. you are correct.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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Well, why not? It was the thing to do, and still is.
who was there to see it? if it is recommened as an outward expression of your faith... who was there to see it? what good did it do.

there was no mention of anyone else there?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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...correct.


...incorrect.


...they were observed by Israel...and somethng you need to understand, those, TODAY, who obey God and observe His Commandments are condidered a member of the family of God...Israel...we are called "Spiritual Israel"...grafted into the "Olive Branch" as a "Wild Olive Branch"...blessed and protected by the Almighty!


...see answer above.


You're right.


Yes you are.


Now you've got it!

God Bless you,
Verna.
it was a part of mosaic law. that law is no longer in effect. only the sabbath day is not mentioned in the new testament. all others are mentioned.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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but, but, it is settled once and for all.......
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oh, thank god for verna! We can all stop talking about this now. :d where were you yesterday, verna, when katie started this thread? We've all been waiting for your pronouncement.
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from one walking dead to another i'd give you a rep, but i have not spread enough around yet. Lol
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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who was there to see it? if it is recommened as an outward expression of your faith... who was there to see it? what good did it do.

there was no mention of anyone else there?
Philip was there. You didn't read it?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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are you gonna make me quote scripture to prove that?
So your answer is yes.

If you perform the task of repentance, you gain salvation.

That is earning it. Doing something to gain something is the act of earning.

I perform tasks at work to earn a paycheck, if I do not perform those tasks I will not get paid.


I'm not disputing the point of earning salvation, I am pointing out that people want to play with words to try to say they aren't saying that very thing.

We all have to earn salvation, however God ensures that we will one day all meet the criteria for salvation. Some of our paths will be worse than others, our paths will all contain hills and valleys. It is all a part of the process.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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it was a part of mosaic law. that law is no longer in effect. only the sabbath day is not mentioned in the new testament. all others are mentioned.
You do not understand scriptural truth when you read it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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He is the only person specifically named in the Bible called to baptize by water, but that certainly isn't a reason to assume that there were not others who were also called. If Jesus Christ deemed water baptism so important that He insisted on receiving it Himself, it would not have suddenly ceased to matter after John's death.
Why was it important that Jesus be baptized in water?

John 1:31 - "I did not recognize Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel, I came baptizing in water."

The main reason John baptized in water was to identify Jesus as Messiah to Israel.

Jesus never lifted up water baptism with regards to the church.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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Philip was there. You didn't read it?
why would philip need to see his outward expression? Philip never saw him again... he had to do it in front of a man? as an outward expression?
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