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Old 12-15-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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Did Christ die for your sins before or after you believed?
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Did Christ die for your sins before or after you believed?
After.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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Before.

While I was still a sinner, Christ died for my sins. Rom 5:8.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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While I was still a sinner, Christ died for my sins. Rom 5:8.
Ditto.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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Job 38:4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.


Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?


Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;


Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

We were there when the foundations were laid. Jesus was chosen from the foundations of the world.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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Job 38:4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.


Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?


Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;


Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

We were there when the foundations were laid. Jesus was chosen from the foundations of the world.
Those were angels--not us. God was chastising Job for thinking more highly of himself than he should have. The point is that we weren't there when the foundations of the earth was laid. The angels were. We are ignorant fools if we think we know it all.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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O.K. so does our believing make it so Christ died for our sins?
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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O.K. so does our believing make it so Christ died for our sins?
If you trust him as your savior, who died to pay the penalty for your sins, then yes.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Did Christ die for your sins before or after you believed?
Is your intent with this thread to argue that believing in Christ is not necessary in order to be eternally saved?
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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Did Christ die for your sins before or after you believed?
Before, of course...
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