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Actually I have. Why you don't understand I do not know.
It's very simple....what caused their desire to follow evil over righteous was the ability to make a desired choice.
They desired to reject God.
Well, I do not believe that explains it, it is not that I do not understand, it is that you haven't actually explained the cause. You have explained the result of a poor choice. In this post you seem to say that they had the ability to make a poor choice, but that doesn't explain why they made it.
Jesus had the ability to make a desired choice. If the "CAUSE" of making a poor choice was the ability to make a desired choice, then Jesus would have made poor choices too, since he had the ability to make a desired choice.
So the CAUSE of Adam and Eves poor choices was not caused by their ability to choose.
As I said earlier... They themself caused it because they desired to chose evil over good.
..., after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death."
I fail to understand how the universal principle of temptation and yielding to sin applied to Adam and Eve, and yet you say they were "unique" among the human race.
Jesus had the ability to make a desired choice. If the "CAUSE" of making a poor choice was the ability to make a desired choice, then Jesus would have made poor choices too, since he had the ability to make a desired choice.
So the CAUSE of Adam and Eves poor choices was not caused by their ability to choose.
That was what Satan was counting on, wasn't it.
Satan was making the same deduction as you're proposing, that Jesus would make the wrong choice just as Adam and Eve did.
But .......... Jesus accomplished what Adam & Eve didn't.
The CAUSE of Adam and Eves poor choices was caused by their ability to choose.
I fail to understand how the universal principle of temptation and yielding to sin applied to Adam and Eve, and yet you say they were "unique" among the human race.
Because Adam and Eve were not created in sin unlike the rest of the human race, therefore the universal application did not exist prior to the fall into sin. That is what was unique for Adam and Eve and not for the rest of humanity.
That was what Satan was counting on, wasn't it.
Satan was making the same deduction as you're proposing, that Jesus would make the wrong choice just as Adam and Eve did.
But .......... Jesus accomplished what Adam & Eve didn't.
The CAUSE of Adam and Eves poor choices was caused by their ability to choose.
What Satan was counting on is irrelevant to the point of this issue.
JESUS also had the ability to choose, so why didn't that ALSO cause Jesus to make a poor choice all things being equal.
There still must be a differentiating factor between Jesus and Adam and Eve, if they were both conceived sinless.
Because Adam and Eve were not created in sin unlike the rest of the human race, therefore the universal application did not exist prior to the fall into sin. That is what was unique for Adam and Eve and not for the rest of humanity.
The whole object of this thread is to ascertain the veracity of what you just asserted.
As I said earlier... They themself caused it because they desired to chose evil over good.
..., after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death."
Okay Twin, but why? Why did they choose evil?
I say it is because they were no different than us. Yes, they were created SPIRITUALLY perfect just as we are, but they had fleshly desires just like us.
Kate
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