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Old 10-25-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Italy
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I believe there is no devil. However, in biblical times the devil was used as the symbol of the evil within us. Otherwise, it is hard to imagine there is such as thing as Satan.

If God is EVERYTHING then there cannot be a Satan.
Just because it's written in the Bible doesn't mean that people will understand it.
When you see deception, lies, hypocrisy... this is a manifestation of the devil (evil).

It's important to have our senses developed to discern right from wrong. And, to trust in the Lord, who will bring everything to a good end for His creatures.

"Wise as serpents, and harmless as doves" is the phrase, if I remember correctly..


Peace,
brian
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: DC/Brooklyn, NY/Miami, FL
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Yes and Satan rules this world (or "this system of things"), even God himself said it in the bible.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Yes there is a devil and a Luciferian generation who is their father, according to the Bible.

John 8:44
You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

In new age circles, these people are called Reptilians and are said to be from a star called Draco. But they may also be fallen angels who were cast out of Heaven during the Rebellion:

Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels

If you look closely, you can see famous people who are in fact fallen ones. It is actually common in Hollywood.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, Satan was at once a angel in heaven, but was kicked out of the heaven, due to causing trouble:
  • Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Satan is today running and controlling the world, because the violence, raping, etc. all comes from Satan not Jehovah:
  • 2 Corinthians 4:3,4 - But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. (basically saying that Satan the Devil is "the god of this system of things")
  • 1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness
The God of this system of things is MAN; it is he who rapes, kills and pillages.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Belief is powerful- You believe in the Devil...He will come...and you will have trouble...It is the spirit of belief that gives this entity life.
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:45 AM
 
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The God of this system of things is MAN; it is he who rapes, kills and pillages.
You got that right. I see great mindless evil in man. There is also great goodness or Godness in man also. After all these years as far as demonic forces...When a person who is evil offends me- or hates me without cause I reprimand them with one statement - "I do NOT have a problem with intelligent people". They always stop dead in their tracks and are silent.

There are only two systems of polarization in this material world. The truth which is defined as REALITY. The second or negative pole is deception....which is NOT the truth - which is not reality.


What I have learned is that stupidity is the core and substance of what we call evil. Stupidity is the embracing of non-reality...it is the seed of evil. If we stick to the truth (reality) we fair well...because we live in a world were the laws of physics apply always. When we practice deception- the power is temporary and fleeting...and things will always fall apart once reality sets in - reality always over powers evil...


Those that use the term "evil genius" are only describing a common trouble maker..Those who take power through truth become a sustainable force- evil is not sustainable...it grows and always fades...Those that that in arrogance and pride practice evil....Their lives and plans always end badly.

If you make a deal with the devil...He will always betray you in the end- that's why they call him the devil...It is unwise and profitless in the end to have an alliance with evil.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: New England
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The God of this system of things is MAN; it is he who rapes, kills and pillages.
The same system steals away,kills and destroys the mind and leaves you in ruins, thankfully the one true God specializes in restoring and renewing.
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