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Old 02-21-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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We disproved that angle a few threads back
The Bible DID NOT Exist when that was written
Also "Scripture" as referred to means "sacred texts" ie Torah etc not the bible It did not exist. until humans assembled it
and i answered the "disproving" in post 138.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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When I encountered the irrefutable proof (to me) of God's existence in deep meditation.
And since, as you admit, it was "all in your mind" how do you know it is nothing more than pure delusion, self inflicted?
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:18 PM
 
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And since, as you admit, it was "all in your mind" how do you know it is nothing more than pure delusion, self inflicted?
God exists because there is no other answer to creation. It is that simple and that is why my church believes in cosmology principles.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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When I encountered the irrefutable proof (to me) of God's existence in deep meditation.
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And since, as you admit, it was "all in your mind" how do you know it is nothing more than pure delusion, self inflicted?
When will you cease this silly "all in your mind" nonsense. EVERYTHING is "all in our minds" . . . get real.

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God exists because there is no other answer to creation. It is that simple and that is why my church believes in cosmology principles.
It requires that atheists ignore the whole "elephant in the room" issue under the blanket "We don't know what it is" "God of the Gaps" facade . . . AS IF that is a scientific explanation for what WE DO KNOW EXISTS (No Gaps involved).
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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When will you cease this silly "all in your mind" nonsense. EVERYTHING is "all in our minds" . . . get real.
mystic, I have something in my hand right now... what is it?

if i close my eyes and my wife takes it out of my hand and places something else there, do i know what it is?

not everything is in our minds.

this is a tree falls in the forest kind of thing.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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mystic, I have something in my hand right now... what is it?

if i close my eyes and my wife takes it out of my hand and places something else there, do i know what it is?

not everything is in our minds.

this is a tree falls in the forest kind of thing.
We have no independent knowledge of anything in reality . . . it is all created within our consciousness from sensory information in the brain. Closing one of the sensory channels just reduces the information to draw from.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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We have no independent knowledge of anything in reality . . . it is all created within our consciousness from sensory information in the brain. Closing one of the sensory channels just reduces the information to draw from.
That is a brilliant observation.

Any theory man creates must be proven by observation. And we need the senses for observation. And our senses are intimately associated with our consciousness.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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We have no independent knowledge of anything in reality . . . it is all created within our consciousness from sensory information in the brain. Closing one of the sensory channels just reduces the information to draw from.

now based on that, where does my knowledge of God come from?

and if it is applicable, where does my belief in God come from through association of my knowledge of Him?
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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now based on that, where does my knowledge of God come from?

and if it is applicable, where does my belief in God come from through association of my knowledge of Him?
Christ in you, he reveals the Father, always as and always will.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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and if it is applicable, where does my belief in God come from through association of my knowledge of Him?
An awarenesss of who you really are while on your knees stooped so low that you considered eating pig food.

He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything. “When he came to his senses".
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