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Old 02-15-2012, 10:00 PM
 
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I say NO.

The Catholic Church in Vatican II states that all that lived a good honorable life in a Christ like manner are saved even if they never knew Christ.

Simply be good to others 24/7.

And therefore you are good to God.

Rather simple.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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I say NO.

The Catholic Church in Vatican II states that all that lived a good honorable life in a Christ like manner are saved even if they never knew Christ.

Simply be good to others 24/7.

And therefore you are good to God.

Rather simple.

Hell will be full of people who were good to others. Those who do not place their trust in Jesus Christ for eternal life will be judged on the basis of their deeds which stem from their relative human righteousness, and thrown into the lake of fire forever (Revelation 20:11-15).


John 14:6 'Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.'

John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not believe the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:06 PM
 
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Hell will be full of people who were good to others.
Where can I find that license to sin?
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:21 PM
 
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Heb 11:6 "Without faith it is impossible to please God"
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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Heb 11:6 "Without faith it is impossible to please God"
Which comes from the goodness of the heart or Spirit.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:28 AM
 
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Salvation is for everyone, but only those that are saved are Christians. If someone calls themselves a Christian for any reason, besides being saved then they are sorely mistaken. The good works theology sends people to hell. That is why a lot of evangelicals are against the Catholic religion.
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:38 AM
 
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Where can I find that license to sin?
By listening and believing to the message that we are dirty rotten sinners and worthless filthy rags.

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

The stew was poured out for the men, but as they began to eat it, they cried out, "O man of God, there is death in the pot"(in the false gospel) And they could not eat it.

That the communication of thy faith may become effectual BY the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

Eat the manna from heaven, instead of the manna of earth and all His righteousness will flourish in us.
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:57 AM
 
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Heb 11:6 "Without faith it is impossible to please God"
Yes, indeed.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:04 AM
 
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Jews and Muslims that are good people are saved as much as Christians.

I had no idea heaven was only reserved for Christians.

Can anyone explain how could salvation exclude these other folks?
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:08 AM
 
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Isaiah 40:5 KJV
And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed , and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.


Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

Luke 3:5 Every valley shall be filled , and every mountain and hill shall be brought low ; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth; 6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.



It's a matter of time which God is not limited to, these will be done, but in His timeframe
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