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Old 02-21-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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How can a person despise the wisdom of God to say we can't be for sure on whether God is talking in all the bible.

No bible edit to trick a child of God on what's real bible truth
from God today-----John 8:32.

God with an obvious heaven and earth he created should not be questioned if he can prove he inspired all the writing in a bible---2 Timothy 3:16.

God with obvious supernatural ability to bring vegetation in the ground with a simple seed sowed should not be questioned if he can prove he inspired all the writng in a bible.

God with obvious creation of all the fowls of the air and also obvious creation of all the beast of the field should not be questioned if he can prove he inspired all the writing in a bible he had men write afterward.

Despite bible edits God forewarned about this ahead of
time--Rev. 22:18-19.

The least grammar tampered bible is the real bible
today---Matthew 5:18.

Obvious phony bibles out there with additional written
books the common person never heard of----Ephes. 4:14.

The bible has past truth , present truth and also future truth.

Past truth does not discredit the bible----John 1:17.

Present truth does not discredit the bible---John 1:17.

Future truth does not discredit the bible----Rev. 1:8.

Legal slavery is past truth of the bible.

Grace and more forgiveness is present truth of the bible.

The dead in Christ rising to meet him in the air is future truth of the
bible.

Supernatural activities in the bible make sense if God is already a supernatural God already with creation of everybody and everything
today----John 8:32.

Our real challenge is bible mockers in unbelief----John 8:32.

Our other challenge is bible teaching in error----Eph. 4:14.

We're in a tug of war to get 100% bible believers together today-----Psalms 133:1.

The adversary doing his best to make unity with people counterfeit-----2 Cor. 6.

He don't mind a good Joe with a good Sally if good Sally a 90% bible believer---Amos 3:3.

Kingdom of God work is really done when our ministry is toward ministering to 100% bible believers---Matthew 7:6.

Another grace believer group fellowshiping with another grace believer group is barely knowing people----1 Thess. 5:12.

All the bible have to confirm we're children of God----2 Timothy 3:16 and John 8:31.

If we knowing somebody otherwise this not the body of Christ to fellowship with----2 Cor. 6.

It takes all the bible to know a believer not a 5 minute testimony of a blood boaster delivered from alcohol-----John 8:31.

Water baptism is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----John 3:5.

Christian attire is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together-----1 Peter 3:3.

Sabbath observance is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----Hebrews 4.

Women church rules is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Man to man bible rebuking is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----James 5:20.

Despising the wisdom of man is what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together-----Isaiah 64:6.

Christian parties is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----1 Peter 4:1-4.

Absolute truth is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Tongue rules is what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together----ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

All the bible is what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together---2 Timothy 3:16.

Christian segregation is also what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together----2 Cor. 6 and John 17:9.


Effort to bring 100% bible believers together is the only purpose for being here--John 17:21 and Matthew 5:6.
If your not a 100% bible believer we're wasting each others time----Amos 3:3.
Educating and flattery is never the purpose for being here.
Trying to make unbelievers understand Christians is a total waste of time---2 Cor. 4:3.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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How can a person despise the wisdom of God to say we can't be for sure on whether God is talking in all the bible.

No bible edit to trick a child of God on what's real bible truth
from God today-----John 8:32.

God with an obvious heaven and earth he created should not be questioned if he can prove he inspired all the writing in a bible---2 Timothy 3:16.

God with obvious supernatural ability to bring vegetation in the ground with a simple seed sowed should not be questioned if he can prove he inspired all the writng in a bible.

God with obvious creation of all the fowls of the air and also obvious creation of all the beast of the field should not be questioned if he can prove he inspired all the writing in a bible he had men write afterward.

Despite bible edits God forewarned about this ahead of
time--Rev. 22:18-19.

The least grammar tampered bible is the real bible
today---Matthew 5:18.

Obvious phony bibles out there with additional written
books the common person never heard of----Ephes. 4:14.

The bible has past truth , present truth and also future truth.

Past truth does not discredit the bible----John 1:17.

Present truth does not discredit the bible---John 1:17.

Future truth does not discredit the bible----Rev. 1:8.

Legal slavery is past truth of the bible.

Grace and more forgiveness is present truth of the bible.

The dead in Christ rising to meet him in the air is future truth of the
bible.

Supernatural activities in the bible make sense if God is already a supernatural God already with creation of everybody and everything
today----John 8:32.

Our real challenge is bible mockers in unbelief----John 8:32.

Our other challenge is bible teaching in error----Eph. 4:14.

We're in a tug of war to get 100% bible believers together today-----Psalms 133:1.

The adversary doing his best to make unity with people counterfeit-----2 Cor. 6.

He don't mind a good Joe with a good Sally if good Sally a 90% bible believer---Amos 3:3.

Kingdom of God work is really done when our ministry is toward ministering to 100% bible believers---Matthew 7:6.

Another grace believer group fellowshiping with another grace believer group is barely knowing people----1 Thess. 5:12.

All the bible have to confirm we're children of God----2 Timothy 3:16 and John 8:31.

If we knowing somebody otherwise this not the body of Christ to fellowship with----2 Cor. 6.

It takes all the bible to know a believer not a 5 minute testimony of a blood boaster delivered from alcohol-----John 8:31.

Water baptism is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----John 3:5.

Christian attire is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together-----1 Peter 3:3.

Sabbath observance is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----Hebrews 4.

Women church rules is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----1 Cor. 14:34-35.

Man to man bible rebuking is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----James 5:20.

Despising the wisdom of man is what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together-----Isaiah 64:6.

Christian parties is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----1 Peter 4:1-4.

Absolute truth is used by God to bring all the body of Christ together----2 Peter 1:20-21.

Tongue rules is what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together----ALL of 1 Cor. 14.

All the bible is what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together---2 Timothy 3:16.

Christian segregation is also what God uses to bring all the body of Christ together----2 Cor. 6 and John 17:9.


Effort to bring 100% bible believers together is the only purpose for being here--John 17:21 and Matthew 5:6.
If your not a 100% bible believer we're wasting each others time----Amos 3:3.
Educating and flattery is never the purpose for being here.
Trying to make unbelievers understand Christians is a total waste of time---2 Cor. 4:3.
RESPONSE:

What makes you believe that the Bible is anything more that a collection of very human writings?

Or is this one of those "you just gotta' believe" arguments?
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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Default Everything Else Believed W/O Proof Except The Bible ?

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What makes you believe that the Bible is anything more that a collection of very human writings?

Or is this one of those "you just gotta' believe" arguments?
Hyprocrisy :

You don't know what the weather is the next day but you believe the weather forecasters when they tell you their less than 100% accurate predicting the weather.

You don't know how a seed in the ground produces all kind of vegetation but you spend all kind of money with a sowed seed in the ground all the time anyway.

You say Jesus is your savior but you don't know how the virgin birth of Mary can be so to have Jesus.

You say your not a legalist but you say the 10 commandments are of God in the bible.

You say your boast is in the blood but the conditions to be blood covered is not your religion to believe----Romans 6:1.

You say Sabbath observance is not for today but you esteem the 10 commandments today to be a holy Christian---Hebrews 4.

You say old law is outlawed legalism but you esteem the 10 commandment today anyway.

You then say new law is outlawed legalism too---Eph. 2:10 and 1 Tim. 6 and 2 Tim. 3:16.

You say law itself is heresy for Christians but you esteem the 10 commandments as important today---2 Tim. 3:16.

You say works is heresy but you esteem the 10 commandments and the 2 greatest commandments too today---Eph. 2:10 and 1 Tim. 6 and
2 Tim. 3:16.

You say works of heresy is something other then old law ordinances of an animal offering and circumcision today---Eph. 2:8.

You say works of heresy is somethng other then old law ordinances with cleaning or dealing with old law punishment for adultery and
murder, etc. today---Eph. 2:8.

You believe in a supernatural God with the weather and with fruit trees
and vegetation on the ground but limit a supernatural God being a man inspired book only.

Moses held out a rod doing supernatural activity but God was behind it.

Magicians as we know it have supernatural activity but God is behind it.

The invention of an airplane is really a supernatural activity that God is behind.

Normally the law of gravity as we know it causes anything in the air to fall unless it's light weight to float like a kite or a balloon as we know it.

If God can make something out of dust so creatively why can can he inspire people to write what he wants ?

If God can inspire people with dreams and visions he certainly can inspire man to write what he wants in a book ?

If God can foretell something true before it happens he certainly can be behind all the bible written by man.

The bible the only book talking about an author other then the publisher of the book.

If everything starts and ends with him why can't be behind making any person write all the bible for him---Rev. 1:8 ?

God we know inspired Moses to write on 2 tables of stone the 10 commandments so why wouldn't he be behind inspiring other writers of the bible too----2 Tim. 3:16 ?


Yes belief leaves some things unproven but enough of God is
supernatural to believe him anyway----John 8:31.

That's proven knowledge no man can discredit----John 8:31.

God don't prove how he allows oxygen to go through your body all the time but you believe he'll do it again because of his supernatural
personality enough----John 8:31.

Why is all the bible any different ?

Did God leave you ignorant of bible editors ? Rev. 22:18-19

Did God say man wrote the bible ? 2 Peter 1:20-21

Did God say he inspired these people to write all the bible ? 2 Tim. 3:16

Did God leave us ignorant of counterfeit bibles ? Matthew 5:18.

Did God say theirs 100 intrepretations of the bible in conflict with each other today ? 2 Peter 1:20-21

Did God say this is all the body of Christ ? Ephesians 4:5.

Did God say Christianity is the 2 greatest commandments
only ? Matthew 5:17-20.

Did God say salvation is blood boasting only ? Romans 6:1.

Did God say Christians fish for all men ? Matthew 7:6.

Did God say every 90% bible believer is our brethren ? John 8:31.

Did God say bible truth is in the intrepretation that each person has of the bible ? 2 Peter 1:20-21

Did God say human wisdom understands holiness ? Jeremiah 10:23.

Did God say salvation is a fast 5 minute class ? 2 Tim. 3:16

Did God say to act like him if you don't know how he acts ? John 5:39

Did God say the human heart is like God ? Isaiah 64:6.

Did God say he too legal ? John 3:5

Did God consult anybody to form any law ? 1 Peter 3:3

Do God need to ? Romans 7:2-3

Will he ever need to ? 1 Cor. 14:34-35

Do God have to be on our level with law ? Hebrews 4

Will he ever have to ? 1 Peter 4:1-4.

Do he need a marketing degree to have publishing law ? Rev. 22:18-19

Can God despise the wisdom of man and have law too ? John 8:24

Again flattery is not the sole purpose here.
Can't make an unbeliever understand a Christian---2 Cor. 4:3
Either your a 100% bible believer or your not----John 8:31
Either we're looking for each other or we're not----2 Cor. 6.
Either we're into real kingdom of God work or not---John 17:21.
Either we're into our wisdom or God's----Matthew 4:4 and Acts 17:28
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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He has to be wise enough to, because the only way we can know anything about God is from the bible. It is impossible to have any revelation outside of the bible. God loves written work.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:52 PM
 
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Yes because God is not dependent on the bible.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:10 PM
 
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He has to be wise enough to, because the only way we can know anything about God is from the bible. It is impossible to have any revelation outside of the bible. God loves written work.
So the christians in the first century knew nothing about God until Paul wrote to them?
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:37 PM
 
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What makes you believe that the Bible is anything more that a collection of very human writings?
Or is this one of those "you just gotta' believe" arguments?
TonyX3 is a Biblean, ancient . . . a 100% Bible literalist and inerrantist. There is no reasoning with such unreasoning credulity.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:08 AM
 
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It is the Spirit that bears witness with our spirit if we are "born again " of His Spirit. As it is written, "Deep speaks to deep.", not the world. We know His words by the Spirit because as Jesus said, "The Spirit and the word agree."
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:11 AM
 
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You don't know what the weather is the next day but you believe the weather forecasters when they tell you their less than 100% accurate predicting the weather.
Red at night, sailors delight.
Red in morning, sailors warning.

Perhaps, you should learn to dance in the rain?
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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I don't know.....

We have amazing resources and scholarship today, according to my guru Brent Walters (KGO radio and expert in early Christianity http://www.didache.com/brent-walters/ ) that there are only a few fingers of "errors" in the text, none of which make a whit of difference in the general result of interprestation.

The real problem has been, over the course of time, the interpretation based upon modern conceptions.
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