"Scripture ALONE" is not scriptural! (Creator, advent, pope)

[katiemygirl]

Dogknox;23552804]The Church Jesus formed TEACHES ALL NATIONS!
The Church Jesus formed Baptizes to make Disciples of; ALL NATIONS!
Truly "Church UNIVERSAL"!
Truly "The One and ONLY UNIVERSAL Church teaches and Baptizes ALL NATIONS!
Matthew 28
“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
The Holy Church Jesus formed, is UNIVERSAL because "God is UNIVERSAL!!"

You claim that the Roman Catholic Organization believes the scriptures, that they do not contradict the scriptures.

Yet you continue to deny the TITLES given to the church Jesus bled and died for. These titles were given by inspiration.

"churches of Christ” (Rom. 16:16)
“churches of God” (1 Cor. 1:2)

Why do you deny these scriptural names?

The church Jesus bled and died for were known as church of Christ, church of God, body of Christ, bride of Christ in the New Testament.

The church Jesus bled and died for was NEVER called Roman Catholic, or Catholic.

Catholic is not a TITLE. It simply means universal. Why would Jesus want His church called UNIVERSAL or CATHOLIC? Did UNIVERSAL die on the cross? Did CATHOLIC die on the cross?

These titles do not reflect the name of Jesus. They are UNSCRIPTURAL.

DOGKNOX SAID: katiemygirl

There was no protestants or protestant churches.. there was no so called "church Of Christ" (protestant)
The ONLY Church of Christ is the Holy Catholic Church the ONLY Church Christ formed!

I agree there were no protestant churches in the New Testament. There was no Roman Catholic either. There was only the spiritual institution built by Jesus Christ. This was the church of Christ/church of God we read about in the New Testament, and it was universal or catholic, in the sense that it was worldwide..

You cannot deny what is written in the scriptures.

"churches of Christ” (Rom. 16:16)
“churches of God” (1 Cor. 1:2)

Why would you want to call the church a name which does not reflect the man who bled and died for it?

The church of Christ/church of God is NOT an earthly institution governed by popes. It is spiritual, and it's head is Christ. It's headquarters are not in Rome. It's headquarters are in heaven.

Yes, the church of Christ/church of God, body of Christ, bride of Christ continues to baptize and make disciples of all nations.

Roman catholics do not baptize (immerse). They sprinkle. How does this represent the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus? The New Testament is filled with examples of believers being immersed. There is not one example of someone being sprinkled. Sprinkling is a direct contradiction of God's word.

Katie

[cledussnow]

And by baptism at birth, they rob an individual of the opportunity to CHOOSE to be baptized and to accept Christ. They are taught it has already been done for them.

Scary really, how much of their dogma is aimed at making sure they never let anyone actually get to experience Jesus.

[ahigherway]

Originally Posted by katiemygirl

You claim that the Roman Catholic Organization believes the scriptures, that they do not contradict the scriptures.

Yet you continue to deny the TITLES given to the church Jesus bled and died for. These titles were given by inspiration.

"churches of Christ” (Rom. 16:16)
“churches of God” (1 Cor. 1:2)

Why do you deny these scriptural names?

The church Jesus bled and died for were known as church of Christ, church of God, body of Christ, bride of Christ in the New Testament.

The church Jesus bled and died for was NEVER called Roman Catholic, or Catholic.

Catholic is not a TITLE. It simply means universal. Why would Jesus want His church called UNIVERSAL or CATHOLIC? Did UNIVERSAL die on the cross? Did CATHOLIC die on the cross?

These titles do not reflect the name of Jesus. They are UNSCRIPTURAL.



I agree there were no protestant churches in the New Testament. There was no Roman Catholic either. There was only the spiritual institution built by Jesus Christ. This was the church of Christ/church of God we read about in the New Testament, and it was universal or catholic, in the sense that it was worldwide..

You cannot deny what is written in the scriptures.

"churches of Christ” (Rom. 16:16)
“churches of God” (1 Cor. 1:2)

Why would you want to call the church a name which does not reflect the man who bled and died for it?

The church of Christ/church of God is NOT an earthly institution governed by popes. It is spiritual, and it's head is Christ. It's headquarters are not in Rome. It's headquarters are in heaven.

Yes, the church of Christ/church of God, body of Christ, bride of Christ continues to baptize and make disciples of all nations.

Roman catholics do not baptize (immerse). They sprinkle. How does this represent the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus? The New Testament is filled with examples of believers being immersed. There is not one example of someone being sprinkled. Sprinkling is a direct contradiction of God's word.

Katie

Originally Posted by cledussnow

And by baptism at birth, they rob an individual of the opportunity to CHOOSE to be baptized and to accept Christ. They are taught it has already been done for them.

Scary really, how much of their dogma is aimed at making sure they never let anyone actually get to experience Jesus.

You both would do good to actually talk with some people in the Catholic faith. I'm not Catholic, so I don't feel a need to participate. However, I've talked with Catholic priests, and I can assure you that they have the same bewilderments about the Protestant faiths.

The path to growth is openness...

Blessings,
brian

[katiemygirl]

Originally Posted by cledussnow

And by baptism at birth, they rob an individual of the opportunity to CHOOSE to be baptized and to accept Christ. They are taught it has already been done for them.

Scary really, how much of their dogma is aimed at making sure they never let anyone actually get to experience Jesus.

You are so correct!

Jesus said, "He who BELIEVES and is IMMERSED shall be saved." Babies are not capable of believing.

Katie

[Dogknox]

Originally Posted by katiemygirl

You claim that the Roman Catholic Organization believes the scriptures, that they do not contradict the scriptures.

Yet you continue to deny the TITLES given to the church Jesus bled and died for. These titles were given by inspiration.

"churches of Christ” (Rom. 16:16)
“churches of God” (1 Cor. 1:2)

Why do you deny these scriptural names?

The church Jesus bled and died for were known as church of Christ, church of God, body of Christ, bride of Christ in the New Testament.

The church Jesus bled and died for was NEVER called Roman Catholic, or Catholic.

Catholic is not a TITLE. It simply means universal. Why would Jesus want His church called UNIVERSAL or CATHOLIC? Did UNIVERSAL die on the cross? Did CATHOLIC die on the cross?

These titles do not reflect the name of Jesus. They are UNSCRIPTURAL.



I agree there were no protestant churches in the New Testament. There was no Roman Catholic either. There was only the spiritual institution built by Jesus Christ. This was the church of Christ/church of God we read about in the New Testament, and it was universal or catholic, in the sense that it was worldwide..

You cannot deny what is written in the scriptures.

"churches of Christ” (Rom. 16:16)
“churches of God” (1 Cor. 1:2)

Why would you want to call the church a name which does not reflect the man who bled and died for it?

The church of Christ/church of God is NOT an earthly institution governed by popes. It is spiritual, and it's head is Christ. It's headquarters are not in Rome. It's headquarters are in heaven.

Yes, the church of Christ/church of God, body of Christ, bride of Christ continues to baptize and make disciples of all nations.

Roman catholics do not baptize (immerse). They sprinkle. How does this represent the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus? The New Testament is filled with examples of believers being immersed. There is not one example of someone being sprinkled. Sprinkling is a direct contradiction of God's word.

Katie

katiemygirl
United Church of Christ
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Pilgrim United Church of Christ
The Universal Church Of Christ
John T. Brown's Churches of Christ
Highway 9 church of Christ
Cathedral Church of Christ
Cathedral of Christ the Savior
International Church of Christ
Society United Church of Christ
First church of christ scientist

Every Church (above) has different doctrine..
All are Church of Christ!

[katiemygirl]

Originally Posted by Dogknox

katiemygirl
United Church of Christ
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Pilgrim United Church of Christ
The Universal Church Of Christ
John T. Brown's Churches of Christ
Highway 9 church of Christ
Cathedral Church of Christ
Cathedral of Christ the Savior
International Church of Christ
Society United Church of Christ
First church of christ scientist

Every Church (above) has different doctrine..
All are Church of Christ!

No. There is only ONE church of Christ. It is spiritual. Jesus adds a person to His body when they obey the gospel.

Dogknox, by law, in the USA, any congregation must have an official name in order to have non profit status.

Just because a congregation calls itself church of Christ does not make that body of believers the true body of Christ.

The only way a group of believers can be the true church of Christ is if they abide in the doctrine of Christ and the apostles laid out in the New Testament.

If a group of believers makes up their own doctrine, then they are not the true church of Christ which Jesus suffered and died for.

Katie

[cledussnow]

Originally Posted by ahigherway

You both would do good to actually talk with some people in the Catholic faith. I'm not Catholic, so I don't feel a need to participate. However, I've talked with Catholic priests, and I can assure you that they have the same bewilderments about the Protestant faiths.

The path to growth is openness...

Blessings,
brian

I was born Catholic. I was raised Catholic. I am open.

You seem to be one who misunderstands the definition of scriptura sola. I posted it for you once, but maybe you never saw it:

sola scriptura is not a denial of other authorities governing christian life and devotion. Rather, it simply demands that all other authorities are subordinate to, and are to be corrected by, the written word of god.

iow, if a preacher, minister, reverend, priest and yes, even pope contradict the word, they are wrong.

In the beginning was what? The word!


Another question for you.

Originally Posted by ahigherway

Yes, in fact, I think "satan" is probably nothing more than our own fleshly desires, that try to lead us astray into selfishness, arrogance, hate, pride, etc.

I don't think we have any more free will than Paul did on the road to Damascus..!

Peace,
brian

Originally Posted by ahigherway

Well-said!

Why can't people see that God made everything.. including the Adversary!


Peace,
brian

These two quotes seem to contradict. Could you elaborate please.

[cledussnow]

Originally Posted by katiemygirl

No. There is only ONE church of Christ. It is spiritual. Jesus adds a person to His body when they obey the gospel.

Dogknox, by law, in the USA, any congregation must have an official name in order to have non profit status.

Just because a congregation calls itself church of Christ does not make that body of believers the true body of Christ.

The only way a group of believers can be the true church of Christ is if they abide in the doctrine of Christ and the apostles laid out in the New Testament.

If a group of believers makes up their own doctrine, then they are not the true church of Christ which Jesus suffered and died for.

Katie

Katie, I would suggest you refrain from using that term. It IS VERY confusing. I had to make a seperate post to ask you about it. Since there is a denomination who calls themselves and is widely known as "The Church of Christ" it is silly to keep using that term when refering to all members of the Body of Christ, regardless of denomination.

[Dogknox]

Originally Posted by cledussnow

And by baptism at birth, they rob an individual of the opportunity to CHOOSE to be baptized and to accept Christ. They are taught it has already been done for them.

Scary really, how much of their dogma is aimed at making sure they never let anyone actually get to experience Jesus.

You are funny AS IF..
As if Martin Luther a Catholic PRIEST Baptized at birth "HAD NO CHOICE!"
cledussnow you are WRONG..... If these Catholic's do NOT what to "REMAIN" in the Body of Jesus, they will not stay in COMMUNION with HIM! It is just this simple!!

They stop EATING and die for lack of nourishment!!

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

katiemygirl DO YOU SEE IT? Jesus FEEDS his BODY!
Ephesians 5:29
After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body.

cledussnow Jesus FEEDS his Holy Catholic BODY; "LIVING FOOD", True MANNA! The protestant quit EATING so they died in PROTEST!!!

I am CATHOLIC.. Catholic's KNOW..
Catholic's know Jesus is "IN Them" we eat is LIVING, never to die, life giving flesh!
We drink Jesus' holy live giving blood! >>>>Jesus is IN ME!<<<<
Jesus is IN Me, he REMAINS IN ME! I eat him, his living forever Flesh and Blood! Jesus REMAINS IN ME!
katiemygirl I am In Jesus; I remain IN Jesus because I do NOT PROTEST and leave!
I REMAIN IN Jesus! because I EAT His Flesh and Drink his LIVING Blood!

56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

cledussnow Baptism is the NEW Testament "Circumcision" the Jewish baby is incorporated into the Jewish people at Eight Days!! Scary to think they might not want to be a Jew, they will not have a CHOICE!!..Ha-ha

[cledussnow]

Do you realize that there are Protestant denominations who DO STILL partake in the sacrament of Holy Communion?